Hello again Bobbie, Why not contact the contributor who posted the information you refer to; it is at odds with records I have sourced from surviving records in Ireland (have researched in London, Dublin and Belfast on six separate occasions and have access to LDS filmed records).
You quote year of emigration of the Thomsons as 2005-6, but perhaps you mean 1805-6? Very few shipping records survive prior to 1900; whatever has survived will be found in the US. Am not sure which map you have been looking at, but there is no townland called Derry in Artrea parish. A map of the parish can be found on CTI http://www.cotyroneireland.com/townlands/images/ArboeArtreaBallyclogBallinderry.pdf Surviving church records for ARTREA parish as recorded on the online website of the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records are as indicated CHURCH OF IRELAND (ANGLICAN) ARTREA, COS LONDONDERRY AND TYRONE C.I. Artrea (Armagh diocese) Baptisms, 1811-85, with gaps; marriages, 1811-1935, with gaps; burials, 1812-70, with gaps; confirmations, 1824, 1828, 1843, 1849, 1852, 1856, 1859 and 1863; vestry minutes, 1723-1904; list of rectors, 1724-1914; preachers’ book, 1829-39. MIC583/11; MIC1/319 Copy of vestry minutes, September 1730. T500/3 Register of vestrymen, 1870-; preachers’ books, 184560 and 1882-. In local custody C.I. Ballyeglish (Armagh diocese) [Formed out of Artrea and Tamlaght] Baptisms, 1868-71; burials, 1868-77; confirmations, 1879, 1882 and 1888. MIC583/15 Baptisms, 1872-; marriages, 1868-; burials, 1878-; vestry minutes, 1868-; confirmations, 1894; registers of vestrymen, 1870-. In local custody C.I. Woods Chapel (Armagh diocese) Baptisms, 1807 (or 1808)-97; marriages, 1808-45; burials, 1808-89; vestry minutes, 1792-1895; poor list, 1818; seat list, 1826; confirmations, 1809, 1816, 1824, 1837, 1840, 1843, 1846, 1849, 1856, 1859, 1866, 1870 and 1876. MIC1/97 Census of the parish, 1829. T308 Baptisms, 1897-; marriages, 1845-; burials, 1889-; confirmations, 1876-; graveyard map and list, 1913. In local custody MORAVIAN MOR. Gracefield Diaries, 1759-1902, with gaps; baptisms, 1750-1931; marriages, 1814-44, 1852 and 1869-1909; burials, 1765-1930; register of members with an index, 17591873, with gaps, etc. MIC1F/31 PRESBYTERIAN P. 1st Moneymore Baptisms, 1827-1959; marriages, 1827-34 and 18451936; communion rolls, 1882 and 1902. MIC1P/339 P. 2nd Moneymore Baptisms, 1845-1949; marriages, 1868-1910. MIC1P/340 P. Saltersland Baptisms, 1848-1923; marriages, 1845-1921. MIC1P/447 ROMAN CATHOLIC R.C. Ardtrea and Desertlin (Moneymore) (Armagh diocese) Baptisms, 1832-4, 1838-43 and 1854-1939; marriages, 1830-43 and 1854-1937, with gaps. MIC1D/35; T305 Apart from the Catholic registers, none of the above are available online. CHURCH OF IRELAND (ANGLICAN) ARTREA, COS LONDONDERRY AND TYRONE C.I. Artrea (Armagh diocese) Baptisms, 1811-85, with gaps; marriages, 1811-1935, with gaps; burials, 1812-70, with gaps; confirmations, 1824, 1828, 1843, 1849, 1852, 1856, 1859 and 1863; vestry minutes, 1723-1904; list of rectors, 1724-1914; preachers’ book, 1829-39. MIC583/11; MIC1/319 Copy of vestry minutes, September 1730. T500/3 Register of vestrymen, 1870-; preachers’ books, 184560 and 1882-. In local custody C.I. Ballyeglish (Armagh diocese) [Formed out of Artrea and Tamlaght] Baptisms, 1868-71; burials, 1868-77; confirmations, 1879, 1882 and 1888. MIC583/15 Baptisms, 1872-; marriages, 1868-; burials, 1878-; vestry minutes, 1868-; confirmations, 1894; registers of vestrymen, 1870-. In local custody C.I. Woods Chapel (Armagh diocese) Baptisms, 1807 (or 1808)-97; marriages, 1808-45; burials, 1808-89; vestry minutes, 1792-1895; poor list, 1818; seat list, 1826; confirmations, 1809, 1816, 1824, 1837, 1840, 1843, 1846, 1849, 1856, 1859, 1866, 1870 and 1876. MIC1/97 Census of the parish, 1829. T308 Baptisms, 1897-; marriages, 1845-; burials, 1889-; confirmations, 1876-; graveyard map and list, 1913. In local custody MORAVIAN MOR. Gracefield Diaries, 1759-1902, with gaps; baptisms, 1750-1931; marriages, 1814-44, 1852 and 1869-1909; burials, 1765-1930; register of members with an index, 17591873, with gaps, etc. MIC1F/31 PRESBYTERIAN P. 1st Moneymore Baptisms, 1827-1959; marriages, 1827-34 and 18451936; communion rolls, 1882 and 1902. MIC1P/339 P. 2nd Moneymore Baptisms, 1845-1949; marriages, 1868-1910. MIC1P/340 P. Saltersland Baptisms, 1848-1923; marriages, 1845-1921. MIC1P/447 ROMAN CATHOLIC R.C. Ardtrea and Desertlin (Moneymore) (Armagh diocese) Baptisms, 1832-4, 1838-43 and 1854-1939; marriages, 1830-43 and 1854-1937, with gaps. MIC1D/35; T305 Using the above website you can look at the Tempo, Co. Fermanagh records and ascertain if the record you seek has survived . It is unlikely that I can assist you further due to the confusion within the records you quote and an inability to offer a guess at the religious persuasion of the Thomsons (hence the long list quoted above). Are you aware that Enniskillen is the county town of Co. Fermanagh and that Derry was likely the port of exit upon emigration? Regards, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Bobbie Reihsen <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:32:35 AM To: Len Swindley Subject: Re: William Thompson search Hi Len, thank you for your reply. My information came from [email protected] May 7, 2001. Maybe he found a resource he could share with you. I I am also looking for the ships from 2005 to 2006 from Ireland to USA. His son, John W. Thompson with wife, "E" and 4 children. William b. 1796, Matthew b. 1798, Margaret b. 1800 and John b. 1803 ca. He was 2 years old when they arrived here. William may have been living in Derry, which is adjacent to Enniskillen townland, as seems from the map. I was also given information that John (son of William) with the 4 kids married a woman in Tempo, Fermanagh. Could there be a Marriage record in Tempo for 1794-5 marriage??? Surely would appreciate any help, since I seem to be lost afterall. John told all his children that he was born in Co. Tyrone, Enniskillen townland. Probably about 1770-1776. Are there any birth records? Marriage records from that time? Thank you so much. Bobbie ________________________________ From: Len Swindley <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 12:16 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: Bobbie Reihsen Subject: RE: William Thompson search Hello Robbie, Thanks for your query relating to your forebear WILLIAM THOMPSON. The only tithe applotment book surviving for Artrea Parish (Cos. Tyrone and Londonderry) is dated 1825. I was referring to the LDS film which contains these records on Wednesday and can confirm that there were no Thompsons recorded in the townland in 1825 - see http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/titheindex.html<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cotyroneireland.com%2Ftithe%2Ftitheindex.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce8d1376cdf4e40a509f908d614572e54%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636718761998560349&sdata=AlysP5ifO%2FMRJz%2BqLyFpTvp6hv8lat2W062jMdg47xo%3D&reserved=0> for a description of these important records. However, there was a Wm. Thompson recorded as a tithe payer in Mowillian (Mawillian) townland in the Co. Londonderry portion of the parish. I am unfamiliar with the records you quote, preferring to go to the original source. So next looked at Griffiths Valuation c1860 (records heads of households) http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.askaboutireland.ie%2Fgriffith-valuation%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce8d1376cdf4e40a509f908d614572e54%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636718761998716589&sdata=lWQY6R8Cpi4nCOps76n1QIT90FhpBCIaBrYn8RhvNP0%3D&reserved=0> and was unable to locate any Thompsons residing in either townland, however Thompsons are recorded in other townlands in the parish. TITHE PAYERS RECORDED IN ENNISKILLEN TOWNLAND (ARDTREA (aka ARTREA) PARISH, 1825), CO. TYRONE, NORTHERN IRELAND PRONI (Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, Belfast) Ref.: FIN 5A/22 LDS FHL Film #258444 SURNAME GIVEN NAME TOWNLAND BAXTER Jno. Enniskillen BAXTER Wm. Enniskillen CLENDINNING Henry Enniskillen DUNN Andrew Enniskillen DUNN James Enniskillen DUNN James (Reynold’s farm) Enniskillen DUNN Jno. Enniskillen DUNN Robt. Enniskillen DUNN Thos. Enniskillen FERGUSON Adam & partners Enniskillen FERGUSON Jno. Enniskillen FERGUSON Rotbt. Enniskillen IRWINE Adam Enniskillen MEAHAN Wm. Enniskillen MECORD Thos., Sen. Enniskillen MECORD Thos., Jun. Enniskillen MECORD Widow Enniskillen MECORD Wm. Enniskillen WILEY Wm. Enniskillen You did not state the religious denomination of the Thompsons (i.e. Church of Ireland, Presbyterian or Roman Catholic); this is essential knowledge when researching in Ireland. Hope this is useful, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia (volunteer transcriber and submitter of hopefully useful files to CTI http://www.cotyroneireland.com/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cotyroneireland.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce8d1376cdf4e40a509f908d614572e54%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636718761998716589&sdata=ZshCoAlPZdc54FSm3CPgRwuDvNUamGuO4yOWS%2Fuq1GA%3D&reserved=0> Sent from Mail<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce8d1376cdf4e40a509f908d614572e54%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636718761998716589&sdata=L6H%2BHJgDEu41nMVM2v%2BHAHhtSEzrkY9YpXjYi%2BvZT20%3D&reserved=0> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <[email protected]> on behalf of Bobbie Reihsen via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:50:10 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Bobbie Reihsen Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] William Thompson search Found William Thompson in Co. Tyrone, Enniskillen townland, Artrea Parish, PLU - Cookstown, Ulster, Northern Ireland. In the International Land Records: Tithe Applotment Books if Ireland, 1823 - 1838. pg. 262 Query: Searching for records of names of wife and children, occupation, birth and death information. Thank you. Bobbie Reihsen
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