Pat, The problem that you face is that the early records you need for your family probably don’t exist. Either never kept or were lost. A very common problem in Ireland. I am told that early Presbyterians in the USA usually kept excellent records. All I can tell you is that it Ireland they often didn’t. Or if they did keep them, there was a lot of water damage, fires, carelessness and over enthusiastic cleaners who chucked them out. Taking Maghera in Co. Derry as an example, the Presbyterian church there was burned in 1798 during the United Irish uprising. Any records to that date were lost. The Minister had been involved in the uprising and had to flee to the USA. (Probably a smart move as his Kirk Session clerk, Watty Graham, was hanged on a tree around the corner from the Presbyterian church). His successor was the Rev Kennedy, appointed c 1802 who was there for about 35 years. By all accounts an excellent man. However his successor, the Rev Witherow described taking over from him c 1838 and asking for any baptism, marriage and other important records that he might have. Rev Kennedy said he didn’t have any. In fact he had no paperwork at all to hand over after his 35 year career. That’s not untypical it seems. Records were not seen as important. (By Rev Kennedy anyway).
If you are looking for Taggarts in the Liscloon area today, I’d say there may not be any. (We know there were none in Liscloon Lower in the 1901 census). Francis was a labourer. It might be helpful if I explain that during the 1800s increased mechanisation on farms reduced the need for labourers on farms. At the same time the other activity that labourers did in their downtime - hand loom weaving - was also in decline being replaced by mechanized weaving in factories in Belfast, Londonderry and elsewhere which made better quality material, far more quickly and cheaper. So the rural labourers two main sources of income were disappearing and they mostly left. They went to work in Londonderry, Belfast, Scotland, England or further afield (as Francis evidently did). So though the name Taggart is found widely across Ireland, I have no confidence there are any of your family still in the Liscloon area today. There might be, but somehow I doubt it. If you are looking for Taggart descendants in Ireland, why don't you pursue the lead I gave you regarding Francis’s daughter Sarah Taggart (born c 1834) who married William McEgan/McKeegan? They evidently remained in Ireland. They may have living descendants in Ireland or the UK today. Here’s Sarah and some of her family in 1901 & 1911 in Londonderry: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Duke_Street/1540071/ http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Duke_Street/606313/ Sarah died on 30.3.1912 at 51 Duke St, Londonderry. I mentioned previously she had a daughter Margaret born in Londonderry on 14.10.1867. In addition, I can see a son James born 19.10.1870 in Glenties, Donegal and Joseph born same place 18.6.1874. William was working there as a caretaker. Looking at a couple of trees on Ancestry that have this family there also appears to have been a Florence born 1851 in Strabane and a Mary Jane who died 4.1.1944 in Londonderry. And there may have been other children. Mary Jane married William Pollock in St Columb’s cathedral, Londonderry, on 31.10.1881. (Her surname there is recorded as Egans. She had evidently dropped the “Mc” prefix as many did. (The O’ and Mc prefixes in Irish names are optional and many dispensed with them at times.) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/No__3_Urban/Bennett_Street__right_hand_side_/1529289/ http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__3_Urban/Bennett_Street/600155/ The above family is probably the closest ancestors/relations in Ireland you are going to find. Elwyn On 19/08/2019, Pat via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > Ok. That’s what I was thinking of. Thanks. I’ll be in Ireland in Derry the > 22 of September and Belfast the 23 of September. I hope to have time to > drive down to Liscloon area and get to the PRONI office but it’ll be tight. > Any suggestion for the PRONI office to look threw? Or are there any > Taggart’s/McKeevers still around Liscloon I might talk to? Thanks again for > all the information. Pat > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:43, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList >> <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote: >> >> There are some Ogilby papers in PRONI, mainly under the holding D1550. >> There are some leases but I don’t see anything that looks like rental >> books if that is what you had in mind. And even if they did have them, >> there’s not going to be a lot of detail on a labourer’s cottage. >> >> Elwyn >> >> On 19/08/2019, Pat O'Fallon via CoTyroneList >> <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote: >>> Lew, Elwyn and Peter, Thanks so much for the sites. I’ve been to most of >>> these with no luck. Do y’all know if any records survived from the >>> Olgilbys >>> house other than the validation? 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