And also........let’s not ignore the variations in the spelling of townlands and occasionally the insertion of incorrect fathers’ names of the contracting parties. If possible, it is useful to refer to the original (church) records.
Civil registration records (commencing 1845 for Protestant marriages) can be located in the indexes found on https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ with free online images from c1864. Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Kathleen Cooper <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 4:29:10 AM To: cotyronelist <[email protected]> Cc: len_swindley <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Altedesert Parish C of I Records and Pomeroy Presbyterian Records Len said: "The filmed records in PRONI, Belfast are of the actual Church Registers, so it is possible to locate two records for marriages: one religious and the other civil." And possibly with different information. My grandmother's birth was recorded as Bella and Isabella. A gg-uncle was recorded as William Cunningham Fulton in the valuations (transcribed as William Cunningham) but his birth record, if I have the right man!, states William Fulton. The Cunningham fits, as it is a thread throughout the family, but I would love to see the church record. The more sources the better! Kathleen ---- On Sun, 03 Nov 2019 23:38:12 -0800 Len Swindley via CoTyroneList<[email protected]> wrote ---- Peter, My thoughts are that you are looking at two different sets of records: it is perhaps rather easy to be confused. My transcriptions for ALTEDESERT https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/altedesert.html and POMEROY https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/pomeroy.html churches (as stated on the headers) are extracted from Civil Registration records which were filmed by the LDS in the 1960s. These are distinct from church registers. The filmed records in PRONI, Belfast are of the actual Church Registers, so it is possible to locate two records for marriages: one religious and the other civil. Many civil records are available online (with images from c1864) at https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/altedesert.html Good luck, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 4:07:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Peter McKittrick <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Altedesert Parish C of I Records and Pomeroy Presbyterian Records Altedesert C of I >From PRONI Guide to Church Records, Baptisms 1877-; marriages 1846-; and >burials 1877- are in “local custody", yet Len Swindley’s transcriptions >mention FHL Film and suggest filming by PRONI staff. Does this mean the same >records are in two places, PRONI and local? In any case, as Len Swindley has transcribed marriages 1846-1852 which hopefully overlaps into nidirect marriage records (from 1845 depending on denomination) if one is looking for such marriages and baptisms and burials before 1877 (baptisms and deaths from 1877 are well into nidirect records) there does not seem much point in viewing these records wherever they are, except for the slim chance of picking up something not registered. Is that a reasonable statement? Pomeroy Presbyterian >From the PRONI Guide, Baptisms 1841-1967, Marriages 1845-1936 records appear >to be at PRONI MIC1P/20 and available to be perused. >From all this, it would seem pointless to go to these two localities for >information, other than viewing the graveyard at Pomeroy Presbyterian (no >graveyard at Altedesert Parish Church)? Appreciate any comments. Regards Peter McKittrick, Cheltenham, Victoria, Australia _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: [email protected] Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
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