Johnny,
Glad to have helped.
I know Wellbrook Beetling Mill well. I’d be surprised if it has any employee
records. Not the sort of thing that generally survives. (I think it was shut
for many years before the National Trust restored it). However I would suggest
you e-mail them in advance of your visit to ask. My understanding is there’s a
manager who lives locally (I think her family own the land it’s on) and some
volunteers – typically local students – who assist with the tours. So you
probably need to contact the manager to get any employee records. If there are
records they may well have been sent to PRONI in Belfast. So best to find out
in advance.
It’s a nice place to visit. Picnic tables by the river. You can walk up by the
waterwheel and on up to see the mill race etc. Freshwater mussels breed there
so it’s now also a place of special scientific interest. And if you don’t know
where the phrase “Pop goes the weasel” originates, you should know after your
visit.
There’s one beetling mill still working commercially in Northern Ireland.
Clarks at Upperlands. It’s not open to the public (Health & Safety). But they
knock out top end linen for Savile Row and similar. If you have a very high
quality dinner jacket with shiny black lining, that lining is sometimes beetled
linen. (Nowadays many tailors use man made materials but that’s what high
quality beetled linen can look like).
Muckamore Grange is a parish. (Grange indicates it was once church land,
typically pre Henry VIII and the dissolution of the monasteries). Not a house
at all, as you obviously know now. Just a parish not far from Belfast Int.
Airport.
Elwyn
On Monday, 24 January 2022, 18:31:25 GMT, Lesley Gmail
<[email protected]> wrote:
A BIG THANKYOU to you Elwyn 😀
I’d been struggling to find information via Ancestry for Tom Marshall although
I’d managed to find quite a bit on his wife (my grandaunt) from various
sources.I was also aware that her father was a linen beetler as that was also
the trade of my grandfather Samuel Carson from Derrinleagh, so putting “two and
two” together he probably worked at nearby Wellbrook Beetling Mill which I’m
hoping to visit later this year and am hoping that they maybe have recorded
workers’ details from that period 🤞🏻Someone in my family a few years back had
misinterpreted his occupation (from my father & mother’s marriage certificate)
as a “butler” which seemed to fit in nicely with the fact that he and his wife
had began their married life together in Antrim at a place named Muckamore
Grange. The misconception was that they both worked at this “big house” … he as
butler and she as a housemaid 😂Thankfully when I started working on our
ancestry about 12 years ago, I was able to discover that he was in fact a
beetler and soon afterwards what his job actually involved.
Best Regards ... Johnny Carson
On 24 Jan 2022, at 16:18, Elwyn Soutter <[email protected]> wrote:
Johnny,
There is a birth for Margaret Jane Barnes on 9th December 1884, in the townland
of Tamlaght. Her father John was a beetler (a process in linen finishing). Her
mother was Margaret Jane Henry.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02673/1984802.pdf
Suspect this is her in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Cookstown/Loy_St_/1728799/
Here’s her marriage to Thomas Marshall in 1921:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09215/5333606.pdf
Thomas Hopkins Marshall in the 1911 census in Drumnaglogh:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Oritor/Drumnaglogh/859491/
Thomas’s birth in 1889. Mother was Eliza Craig.
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On Monday, 24 January 2022, 16:03:12 GMT, Lesley Gmail via CoTyroneList
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello all,
I am seeking any information on Thomas Marshall (born around 1880 probably but
not definitely in the Kildress area west of Cookstown) who was the husband of
my grandaunt “Margaret Barnes” (born 9th December 1884 probably in the Tamlaght
or Derrinleagh area of Oritor/Kildress)
There are quite a few erroneously listed family trees on Ancestry that show
Margaret Barnes being married to one James Slaine but he was more likely
married to her elder sister Maria as my family Bible lists this fact.
The Carson/Barnes family Bible probably had these facts recorded at a time when
these people were still alive but unfortunately I can’t 100% verify this as the
Bible was “hijacked” some years ago by someone in my family breaking the
tradition of it being passed down to the eldest son of each generation.
Thankfully I was able to obtain most of the information listed before my aunt
(who’d taken the Bible from my father) had died.
Best Regards ... Johnny Carson (Coventry, UK)
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