Hello Annie, Thanks very much for your excellent and fascinating analysis of the fashions in the photo. I enjoyed reading it!
Pat > On Aug 26, 2024, at 10:46 AM, Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > WOW Annie, thank you -- what a wonderful response with all these lovely > details... I was hoping someone on the list might have this kind of knowledge > :-) > > Thanks as well to others who responded on- and off-list -- I'm excited to > have this new piece of family history "pretty darn certain" to be true... > it's amazing how a bit of luck can play into one's investigations... it was > only because I was looking for something else that I found the scan of > Carrie's diary from her 1895 trip, and that caused me to wonder if this > new-found might be related, so I re-read and as the story unfolded and I saw > the mention of 10 women meeting some men who took a photo :-) > > Good to know about the AI-driven photo identifier... I have about 1000 > scanned images, and perhaps 50-75 are not yet known... I suspect some of the > people whom I do know are in some of the other pictures (saw some familiar > faces when looking last night LOL), so an AI assist would be helpful! > > Thanks again, everyone!! > > Dave > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From "Annie Crenshaw via CoTyroneList" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > To [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc "Annie Crenshaw" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Date 8/26/2024 1:06:43 PM > Subject [CoTyroneMailingList] Photo 1895 ladies group in Scotland > >> The ladies group photo taken at a haystack beside a lake (with accompanying >> gentleman) is certainly an 1890s photograph. I'd say the 1895 vacation trip >> is exactly when it was taken. >> >> Ladies fashions weren't very different from country to country, and the same >> is true today. Both men and women (those who were able to afford fashionable >> clothing) followed fashion trends. You can "date" a photo in general from >> any time period, taken anywhere, by the clothes, hairstyles and accessories. >> >> Images of Queen Victoria of England (1819-1901) as a young woman look very >> much like Varina Howell (1826-1906), wife of Confederate president Jefferson >> Davis in the USA, and both women look like the famous Swedish singer, Jenny >> Lind (1820-1887). Each young lady is dressed in her finest silks, jewels and >> hair ornaments for the portrait taken thousands of miles apart in different >> countries. >> >> >> <Queen Victoria 1819-1901.jpg> >> >> <Varina Howell Davis 1826-1906.jpg> >> >> <Jenny Lind 1820-1887.jpg> >> >> >> The hats in the "Is this a ladies group in Scotland?" photograph are >> particularly "1890s," as are the skirts, gored to fit smoothly over the >> ladies' hips. Long-gone were the bustles of previous years! Also, women's >> bodices in the 1890s were notable for large leg-o-mutton or gigot sleeves -- >> clearly seen in this photo. Another 1890s trend: a "masculine" look was >> popular for work, sports and outdoor activities: ladies wore a shirtwaist or >> blouse that was tailored like man’s shirt, often with a necktie or bowtie. >> >> >> <Ladies in hats bicycling 1890s.jpg> >> >> Ladies on a bicycling excursion in the 1890s, or dressed for work in a >> Toronto library, are dressed like the young ladies who posed beside the >> haystack. >> >> <Library staff at Mechanics Institute c1895 Toronto.jpg> >> >> Last year, MyHeritage released a feature called "PhotoDater" that uses AI >> (artificial intelligence) technology to estimate the year a photo was taken. >> PhotoDater examines clothing, hairstyles, accessories and other objects >> characteristic of a particular decade. After a few seconds, an estimated >> year the photo was taken appears. See "Introducing PhotoDater" on the >> MyHeritage Blog web site: >> >> https://blog.myheritage.com/2023/08/introducing-photodater-an-exclusive-free-new-feature-to-estimate-when-old-photos-were-taken/ >> >> There are also editorials and reviews of PhotoDater on various genealogy web >> sites. I'm sure other genealogy companies will soon be introducing similar >> features, if not already hosting and advertising them. Identifying old >> photographs is so important in family history! Is this a photograph of >> "Grandmother Mary" taken in 1865, as the family has said for years, or her >> daughter "Lizzy" in 1885? Inquiring minds would like to know! >> >> Also (without using a photo dating program) you can do a Google or other >> search engine search for "fashion history" or "ladies fashions 1890s" (or >> whatever decade you'd like to check). There are many web sites with helpful >> photographs you can compare your own photos with. >> >> Annie >> >> > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - [email protected] > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > [email protected] > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - [email protected] > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > [email protected] > =================================
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