Not necessarily relational, it depends on the use case and how much you can denormalize. But if the document keeps growing, is it really a document, or bunch of documents bound together?

While some XML databases allow documents that are gigabytes or even terabytes in size, CouchDB documents are meant to be individually held in-memory. And while both operate on documents, the query and access models differ greatly. It might be that XML or relational database is a better fit for your app.

-Damien


On Nov 13, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Michael Ramirez wrote:

If I begin breaking up my documents into related documents aren't I just creating a relational database?


Michael

----- Original Message ----
From: Damien Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: couchdb-user@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:00:44 AM
Subject: Re: Document Updates

I was planning on something similar this for field and attachment level replication, where only the fields or attachments that are changed are replicated. With the scheme I'm thinking of, it's possible to have it incremental at any nested level of the doc tree, but I'm not sure the extra overhead is worth doing it beyond the root fields.

However, Michael's concern of the document getting larger and the app getting slower still applies, the document must still be loaded into memory on the server and the diffs applied, and the complete doc will need to be loaded into memory for view indexing too. Michael, regardless of the diff updates, I'm thinking you need to break you document up into multiple documents.

-Damien

On Nov 13, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Ayende Rahien wrote:

I think that this should be pretty easily done using:
a) well defined pretty format output
b) standard diff

The reason for (a) is that you need this to get line breaks, which are
critical to diffing correctly.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Noah Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:30:17AM -0800, Michael Ramirez wrote:
Will this cause bandwidth issues when updating large documents if only a single field changes. I am afraid that as my documents grow larger my app
gets
slower.

I for one am interested to hear JSON diff proposals. I think this would
make a
great addition to CouchDB. As best I can tell, this should really be done
as an
external standardisation effort so the whole community could benifit. I
don't
think using JavaScript to set the document attributes is a very good
solution to
this. An entirely new Media Type is needed, IMHO.

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