On Nov 13, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Damien Katz wrote:

My answer is "Don't do that". Values in documents shouldn't depend on values in other documents, that's a better fit for a relational or OO DB. In your example though, CouchDB's views could be used to compute the sums.

i don't think that's realistic.  consider something like the following:

let's say we write a publishing system, users can create documents with content and tags. at the end of the month the editor is going to write a summary of the content from that month, obviously this summary should be tagged with the union of the tags from all summarized content - for later searching. regardless of whether we store the tags inside the document or outside of it we have quite a task - we need to get a consistent read of all content for the month, with all it's tags, in order to properly construct the summary document with it's aggregate tags. this isn't strict dependence - it's merely a read/write consistency issue which nearly any application is going to face. we can argue that it's not important that the summary of tags exactly mirrors the tags of it's constituent parts, but that kind of thinking results not in an information store, but a collection of valueless data.

anyhow, i think it's important to be able to agree upon best practices for this kind of operation. saying that values shouldn't depend on values in other documents is quite a statement - it means couch should no be used for any information store where the information value needs to grow recursively. in my case we're modeling financial information which gets processed in increasingly sophisticated ways - where documents are inputs to processes which produce other documents. i can't think of an application that does not do the same thing: a blog comment depends on the blog post, a 'friends list' depends on the users, etc.

are you referring to 'values' as different from 'ids' ?

kind regards.

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