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Dear Mr. Caldwell, 

I recently recieved a notice of a proposed AD on Ercoupes due to corrosion
found on one airplane during inspection. 

I recognize that Univair Service Bulletin #31 covers this potential
problem, and the means to check and prevent future  corrosion problems.
However, I am very surprised that apparently Univair did not publish the
Service Bulletin to registered Ercoupe Owners. I have owned an Ercoupe
since the mid 80's, and have previously recieved Service Bulletins on a
regular basis..as they were issued from Univair. I understood the FAA
regulations required a holder of a Certificate to notify registered owners
of a new service bulletin. Is this correct? Did Univair mail noticces to
all registered owners as (I thought) required? 

The Ercoupe Owners Club just published your letter on the Notice of
Potential Airwothiness in their November 2001 issue., which I recieved
just last week. This leaves little time for owners, mechanics,and
inspectors to respond to the notice with a closing date of November 26th.
Please consider extending the date for another 30 days. 

However, I will try to list several concerns that may be of help. 

1. One commenter on the Ercoupe list stated he had talked to you by phone,
and got the comment from you  "Ercoupe Wings are falling off". I suspect
you were mis-quoted. I hope so, because the FAA accident reports DO NOT
SHOW this to be a true statement. ( At least the FAA accident reports I
can access do not show such to be true.) It is said that the engineering
data shows that the Ercoupe center Section is stronger than that of an
early Bonanza. (I am not sure I can provide this data). 

2. We have been experiencing corrosion in wing spars...but unusual in the
web areas. Most of this corrosion in spars is of the type due to
contaminated materials in the aluminum when built, Intergranular; not due
to weather related and exposure to moisture. 

3. As a borescope inspection found this named incident, then I agree an
inspection should be required to insure safety. It is already required on
every annual inspection, and as shown can easily be accomplished with a
borescope. However some mechanics and Inspectors may not properly inspect
every item. Even a new AD will not correct this personnel problem. 

4. Until you recieve adaquet data from the field, this incident is just
that. Many badly corroded aircraft are donated to Schools for their use
when no longer economically repairable due to extensive corrosion.
Generally these orphan airplanes have been left  to the elements and not
properly cared for. Recently an Ercoupe was listed on e-Bay, and an EOC
member visitied the airplane for a visual inspection. The airplane was
located on an airstrip close to the ocean, and tied down for many years.
There were holes through out the fuselage due to sea water spray
corrosion. Of course this was not mentioned on e-bay. Thanks to the EOC
Member, our other members were not led to a mess...BUT, this type thing
does not require an AD to correct. 

5. I suspect the noted incident is a result of mice urine, or stopped up
drainage holes, as it is described as exfoliation corrosion......surface
corrosion, I understand. 
If this is the case, proper maintenance  and observation of drainage holes
would have prevented this problem on this aircraft, and does not require
an AD to correct. On the other hand , were it intergranular corrosion as
is showing up in some main spars, then an AD might be advisable -
recognising that the original material may have been manufactured with
included contamination. (the cause of intergranular corrosion). 

6. I urge you and the FAA to, as I know you will do so, consider all the
evidence you can gather before issuing a new AD on the Ercoupe. We do want
safe airplanes; and I recognize this is your responsibility; along with
the owner and mechanic - to insure the airplane remains safe. However,
unnecessary maintenance  and "overboard" regulation often only moves
owners to abandon their airplanes, to ignore AD's they feel are necessary,
or to fly unsafe airplanes due to "calling Wolf" too often. I hope this is
not the case in this incident. 

7. Many folks are concerned about owning aluminum structured aircraft -
corrosion, 
corrosion, corrosion. BUT, one of the reasons we use Aluminum in the
construction of aircraft is because of its properties to resist corrosion.
As you know, bare aluminum quickly corrodes on the surface, creating an
aluminum oxide coating that further resists corrosion. This protective
coating is permanent protection, until someone decides to shine it off.
Then without surface conversion protection the corrosion process again
forms a dull passivity coating, protecting the underlying materials. True,
acid rain, animal urine, etc, do break down this protective layer. 
So, it is advisable to coat the aluminum surface with conversions and
coatings to resist this deteriorating effect. 

8. Again, I have owned a 1946 Coupe ( an aluminum airplane) for almost 20
years. Luckily, I have not experienced these types of corrosion problems
even though the airplane is stored out of doors, unprotected.  However, I
have observed many aluminum aircraft improperly stored, maintained and not
cared for - or properly inspected -  that have experienced severe
corrosion. AD s would not have prevented this....only loving care by the
owner. I don't think we can regulate this. 

I hope the above comments are not too long winded, and may be helpful in
your effort to determine the true nature of this potential problem. We do
want regulations and ADs that are really necessary to insure safe
airplanes. I trust you will find this incident is an isolated incident,
and does not require an AD. 

Sincerely, 

Harry L. Francis 
2851 Sarver Road 
Ellliston, VA 24087 
540-268-2307 phone 

415 -D N-93530 
S/N 853 
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