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Theres a grope of pilots out west that say thay dont have med. cert. or a
pilot lic. thay say to much big brother crap. Think thay are in Az . or
New
mex ,
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From: "N161LH 3B9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [COUPERS] RAMP CHECKS


> ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any
advice in this forum.]----
>
> And let's not forget that you could be taking heaven only knows what
> holistic/natureopathic stuff, and as long as there's no scrip, nobody's
the
> wiser.
>
> I agree that there's plenty of legit stuff that folks lose medicals
over,
> but unfortunately the "big brother" stuff has gotten so out of hand that
I
> fear folks won't seek medical consultation just because they don't want
to
> lose their medical.
>
> Leslie
>
>
> >From: "Michael J. Nutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [COUPERS]  RAMP CHECKS
> >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:46:08 -0400
> >
> >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any
> >advice in this forum.]----
> >
> >It's true.  If someone is treated for depression, even a single
occurance,
> >the meds used are
> >disqualifying.  Someone can, and hasm had a heart transplant and gotten
a
> >special issuance 3rd class
> >medical.  you can now fly with insulin dependent diabetes, high blood
> >pressure, post bypass surgery,
> >etc., etc. -but not psych meds.  What's funny (tho not really!) is that
if
> >someone chooses to take Zyban
> >to quit smoking they are disqualified.  that is because Zyban is the
same
> >(Bupropion) as Wellbutrin, an
> >anti-depressant.  Now that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
> >
> >Michael J. Nutt, MS, PA-C
> >(full time in the Dept. of Surgery, moonlight 2 days a week in a
private
> >psych practice)
> >Warren, MI
> >
> >(P.S. I have privileges in the Dept. of Urology too)
> >
> >Candy and Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before
following
> >any advice in this forum.]----
> > >
> > > I have to agree with Bob here
> > >
> > > someone I know personally was denied a medical
> > > because he and his wife had gone to counseling
> > > to see if they could save their marriage
> > >
> > > (there was no physical abuse involved on either's part)
> > >
> > > he was denied under that "any mental or emotional problem"
> > > part of the med standards
> > >
> > > possibly the mistake they made was in going to a
> > > psychiatrist for the counseling, rather than a nonmedical
> > > person  --  they had HMO coverage so that's what
> > > they chose to use
> > >
> > > he appealed the revocation but the denial was upheld,
> > > he will never be able to get a medical again
> > > (it's a lifetime denial on those grounds, the Feds apparently
> > > don't believe mental or emotional problems ever get better)
> > >
> > > if he wants to fly, he will have to stick with ultralights,
> > > sailplanes, balloons; fly dual only; or fly illegally
> > >
> > > the funny part of this was:  the nonpilot was given a Rx for
> > > psychoactive medicines and was hospitalized; the
> > > pilot chose to go to counseling with her because he loved her
> > > and wanted to help  --  the counselor told him there was
> > > nothing wrong with him
> > >
> >
> >
>
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