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Yeah, you got it right, sort of.

There is indeed a shortage of pilots, not applicants.  To be a military
pilot, you need to go to Undergraduate Pilot Training (UPT).  There are a
limited number of available UPT slots, probably based on funding, I would
imagine.

In a perfect world, we would have enough of everything we need.

The previous Administration, which didn't really care for anything
military,
still tended to use it for all kind of things, including non-military
related, keeping everyone deployed constantly, but cutting funding at
every
opportunity.

The need for Military pilots is mostly caused on attrition due to what has
been, until very recently, very good availability of airline positions. I
would guess that will change a bit in the short term, but the trend is for
need for qualified civil pilots than there are available.  With the
military
training fewer, many of these will have to come from the private sector.
Student starts have been declining for various reasons.  Maybe nobody
wants
to invest a relative fortune to learn to fly, only to get practically a
minimum wage job, working your butt off till you can move up to a living
wage.

Rich



-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 09:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; Coupers
Subject: Re: FW: [COUPERS] WARNING:OFF- TOPIC: Humor-Irony


Let me get this straight.  There is a serious shortage of pilot
applicants,
to fill the pilot positions
that do not exist.  Did I get it right?  Sounds like a typical government
job application.

Larry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any
advice in this forum.]----
>
> It sure beats "An Army of One" to me.
>
> In fact, there are plenty (actually, most) enlisted "flying" jobs
available
> and open in the AF right now.  I get the retirement news email and it
says
> Flight Engineer, Boom Operator (air refueling), Loadmaster, Airborne
Sensor
> Specialist (AWACS), Flight Attendant and a few other crewmember jobs are
not
> being filled adequately right now, do to not enough persons wanting to
fill
> them.   If you want to work aboard a USAF aircraft right now, it is as
> possible as ever at least since WWII or maybe the SEA days.
>
> There are even serious shortages of pilot's too, but you need to get one
of
> the available slots for that and the problem there is as much a shortage
of
> slots as there are people to fill them.
>
> There are plenty of non-aircrew but aviation related USAF jobs unfilled
too.
> Seems military life isn't much of an attraction for our
"best-and-brightest"
> these days, even with all the flag waving going on.
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 15:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [COUPERS] WARNING:OFF- TOPIC: Humor-Irony
>
> I guess the commercial's okay. It sure doesn't imply that
> the recruit has an iceberg's chance of actually getting to
> fly, though.
>
> That's probably truth in advertising :-)
>
> Greg
>

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