Juha,

> On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Robin Bowes wrote:
>
>>  FAM may be available to "all recent versions of Red Hat" but that
>>  doesn't mean that it is installed. xinetd is available to "all recent
>>  versions of Red Hat" but that doesn't mean it is installed on every
>>  server.
>
> I think you're missing the point here. Sam and other software packagers
> make reasonable assumptions based on standard installations of e.g. RHL.
> FAM and Xinetd are installed by RHL by default with RHL.
>
> Of course, some people remove these or add something else. In doing so,
> another assumption is reasonable: that these people know what they're
> doing, and are capable of working with a non-standard distribution instead
> of griping about it on mailing lists.

Au contraire, I think *you* (and Sam) are missing the point.

Sam writes software which doesn't cost me anything. I am grateful for that.

He can and does release/build it it whatever way he sees fit. That's his
prerogative.

As you reasonably assume, I *am* capable of working with a non-standard
distribution and I'm not griping about the fact that it creates certain
challenges related to software dependencies.

All I'm saying is that a bit of documentation would make life easier.

For example, somewhere in the RPM build instructions, it wouldn't be
unreasonable to say "In order to build this package you need the following
packages installed: blah, blah, FAM, blah"

After all, it's *optional*, so if I'm  building from source (./configure ;
make ; make install) then the configure script will detect that I don't
have (for example) FAM installed and alter the build config accordingly.

Is that unreasonable? Am I really griping?

R.

PS. One small point regarding FAM and Redhat; I started with a "standard"
Redhat 7.2 install. FAM was not included. Sure, it's on the disks, but if
you choose a minimal install it does not get installed.
-- 
Robin Bowes | http://robinbowes.com


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