On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:41:13 -0400
Sam Varshavchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Wullinger writes:
>
> > The planned system introduces a new link into the well-known
> > depencency hell already present on most open source unixoid
> > platforms, i.e. to compile package x I may need package y and must
> > not have installed package z, but not version a.b to version a.q of
> > it, because those are fundamentally broken (I think, everybody
> > who routinely compiles free software from source knows, what I'm
> > talking about).
>
> That's only true if you're trying to hack stuff on your own, without the
> benefit of a packaging system. If you are using a package manager, all the
> dependency tracking will be taken care of.
>
> > I normally tend to compile non-system optional packages into
> > /opt/<package-name><package-version> and that introduces a
> > nice little shared library problem, when the linking stage does
> > not properly take care (or simply ignore) of -rpath's (like gtk
> > , glib and company. On the other hand, it makes proper package
> > versioning (and multiple installed versions of the same package)
> > possible, without introducing obscure cross-library version dependent
> > bugs.
>
> You are trying to use the filesystem as a substitute for a functional
> package manager. A filesystem directory is not a suitable replacement for a
> package manager that correctly tracks dependencies.
>
> > The questions is: How much work would it be for you to still
> > (optionally?) bundle up the detached authlib in a extra
> > subdirectory within the normal source packages and modify
> > the configure script to check for an installed version of
> > the future authlib and use that (probably only, if it is newer),
> > if possible and setup the package up to build and install the
> > supplied one otherwise.
>
> It's more work, simply because a lot of things are going to change within
> authlib when it becomes a separate package.
>
> For starters, there will now be a single authdaemond binary. All
> authentication modules will now be shared libraries, dynamically loaded at
> runtime. You will still be able to build all authentication modules, but
> package LDAP, MySQL, and PostgreSQL shared libraries separately, because the
> configured authentication modules will be manually dlopen-ed, using libtool.
>
> This will get rid of a lot of cruft in authlib.
Although that'll keep me busy as Debian maintainer, that makes a lot of
sense.
Thanks
Racke
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