Thus spake Jay Lee on Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:24:21PM CST
> 
> On Fri, February 3, 2006 2:11 pm, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> > Thus spake Jay Lee on Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:01:46PM CST
> >
> >> On Fri, February 3, 2006 1:49 pm, Dave Platt wrote:
> >>
> >>> That trick doesn't seem to work for an smtpfilter, however.  If one
> >>> tries to echo a 4xx temporary-failure code in an smtpfilter, Courier
> >>> prefaces the whole string (including the 4xx) with a 558 code, making
> >>> the error permanent rather than temporary.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure why this distinction exists in the code.  It'd be nice
> >>> to allow an smtpfilter to return a temporary error, too.
> >>
> >> I believe it's because that's what the SMTP RFCs require.  Once the
> >> receiving server sends the OK send data acknowledgement it can't return
> >> a 4xx temp error.  It must either reject the message or accept it for
> >> delivery.  Yeah, it sucks but that's the way it is...
> >
> > AOL does it!  If your IP happens to be on one of their blacklists and you
> >  try to email an AOL subscriber, you don't get an error until you've
> > completed the data section of your email and then the AOL mail server
> > says "421 SERVICE NOT AVAILABLE".
> 
> I'm sorry...  Did you really start an argument with the words "AOL does
> it!"!?  Yes, I have reached the end of the internet...  :-)  Honestly, I
> don't know and I don't have time to dig through the RFCs right now (nor do
> I desire the headache I get when read RFCs...)  Sam could say better why
> 4xx errors aren't possible with .smtpfilter.

To clarify, this is tongue-in-cheek.  I _don't_ hold AOL up as a paragon of
RFC compliance, in fact - quite the opposite.  I'm in the process of having
to get an IP un-blocked at AOL on a new server I'm building - an IP address
that's been unused for years and which I've just now started trying to use
for outgoing email.  I've been through their 'whitelist' procedure, but I
can't start moving customer services on to the new server until AOL takes
some action to unblock the IP address.

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