On 15.08.11 15:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:02:41 -0400
>From: Sam Varshavchik <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [courier-users]
> ESMTP_USE_STARTTLS error         question
>
>Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes:
>
>>What error does courieresmtp generate now, when it envounters STARTTLR
>>error with SMTP server?
>>Can I turn on fallback to plaintext SMTP, when courier encounters such
>>error?
>>
>>While I would like to use TLS where possible, I'm ok without it -
>>we currently send all mail without TLS now :)
>
>There are several possibilities. If the STARTTLS command itself 
>fails, it's an SMTP error no difference then any other SMTP error, 
>and will be either permanent or transient depending on its numerical 
>code. If the STARTTLS command succeeds, but TLS negotiation fails, 
>its a permanent error. But in either case there is really no fallback 
>path.
>
>For practical purposes TLS for SMTP is fundamentally broken. Many TLS 
>servers simply use self-signed certs, making TLS fundamentally 
>useless as means for effective encryption.
>



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