Hi Alex,

I'd be curious to hear an example of #1?

-Mike Schinkel
Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
http://ignitionalley.com



On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Alex Hillman wrote:

> I'm curious who ends up taking advantage of this. Based on the scope  
> of the people who I've spoken with over the last 2 years since the  
> uptick in interest in opening coworking spaces, it boils down to:
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> 1) Small to medium special interest groups
>
> 2) Pre-existing businesses that introduce a coworking component to  
> their workspace (agencies, think tanks, etc) for a variety of reasons.
>
> 3) Property developers who have space that isn't being utilized and  
> read about coworking in the news
>
> None of these are right or wrong, mind you. I'm just curious who is  
> going to help the most by this $400 package.
>
> In the last 9 months the volume of inquiries I've fielded about  
> helping people get started (or do damage control on a failing  
> venture) has skyrocketed. Most interestingly, but not surprisingly,  
> the volume of types 2 and 3 above have become the majority.
>
> I've always contributed to this group, and in other public forums,  
> as much as my time allows. I've made it a priority, since I consider  
> that the "open source" side of my contribution.
>
> For one-on-one sessions, though, I began offering a coworking- 
> specific deal on my Unstick.me microconsulting services as the  
> defacto for most one-on-one help.
>
> http://unstick.me/coworking.html
>
> I never had specific expectations of what this would turn into, but  
> the one observation that I want to share now because I think it's  
> relevant to the discussion about the Centre for Social Innovation's  
> offerings (which sound robust) is this:
>
> People who can afford the help have done the least with it.
> People who can't afford the help continue to cobble things together  
> until it works.
> There are exceptions to both of these points, and my intention is  
> not to say that anyone who I've done an unstick.me with has done  
> wrong with the information I've given. On average, though, the  
> people who these programs do the most good for don't have access to  
> funds, even a little bit.
>
> It's been a struggle of mine to figure out how I can be compensated  
> for my time and be on the ground helping the people who really want  
> it, the people who really need it.
>
> So far, hourly and package consulting hasn't been completely  
> INEFFECTIVE, but it's not nearly as effective as when I've gone  
> somewhere on my own dime (usually my half-assed version of a  
> vacation, or a conference) and spend some time really talking  
> through things with other leaders/groups/etc. Those are the success  
> stories that make me glow.
>
> I admittedly don't know where this leaves the package offered by the  
> Centre for Social Innovation, or any of our combined efforts to help  
> coworking grow and evolve into new regions and communities. I just  
> thought it was a pertinent time to speak up and share.
>
> -Alex
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> Alex Hillman
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> local: www.indyhall.org
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> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jessica Richman <[email protected] 
> > wrote:
> I have the same question. How is it "opening the model" if it costs  
> over $400? That's like saying "it's open source software" -- but you  
> have to pay for it.
>
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> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Jerome Chang  
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> I should clarify that I hadn't intended to be critical or accusatory  
> in my original email.  So before anyone else chimes in to say this  
> site is a horrible idea, I just want to inquire about how this site  
> can provide more info than what already is provided on these threads?
>
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> Jerome
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> BLANKSPACES
> "work wide open"
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> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea)
> Los Angeles, CA 90036
> 323.330.9505 (office)
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> On Sep 15, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Jacob Sayles wrote:
>
>> Yeah it's more that it has no indication of what this is for.  You  
>> create a profile and then it asks for money.
>>
>> Jacob
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>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected] 
>> > wrote:
>> I'm with Jerome on this. I acknowledge the need for better  
>> organization within the larger sphere of community spaces, but what  
>> exactly does the $400 get me that I can't get from being a good  
>> participant/contributor to coworking in the scope of being a  
>> healthy open source project?
>>
>> -Alex
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>> Alex Hillman
>> im always developing something
>> digital: [email protected]
>> helpful: www.unstick.me
>> visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com
>> local: www.indyhall.org
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>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Jerome Chang  
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Intriguing idea.  What is available on your site for $400 that isn't
>> already available, albeit fragmented, on these threads?  Is there a
>> longer term goal for this?
>>
>>
>> Jerome
>> ______________
>> BLANKSPACES
>> "work wide open"
>>
>> www.blankspaces.com
>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea)
>> Los Angeles, CA 90036
>> 323.330.9505 (office)
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2009, at 12:17 PM, creativespace wrote:
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>> >
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>> > http://openspaces.socialinnovation.ca
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