thank you for bringing up this issue, which is absolutely key in my
point of view.

in the country I live in (italy) families struggle with babysitters
and grandparents to handles children after shooltime, I definitely
think all the time that coworking with childcare facilities would be
an excellent idea.

max

On 23 Dic 2010, 10:04, Jeannine <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, essentially the Cisco model is on site child care, which they
> also have in the US.  Until October of this year, the Cisco centers
> were essentially satellite offices for Cisco.
>
> Part of the issue here in the Netherlands is that in many ways, the
> whole society is built on the one-earner model, folks are rapidly
> switching to the two-earner model but the institutions are mostly not
> keeping up.  Schools do not for instance typically have lunchrooms --
> kids go home for lunch.   And day care..well, when I came here six
> years ago there was exactly one professional day care in this town of
> 50,000 souls.  "Preschool" starts at 18 months to 2 years and is two
> half days per week.
>
> For another example, children with learning and other disabilities are
> not integrated into the school system here, they go to different
> schools which are regionally based,  These kids are therefore bussed
> via contract with taxi services -- picked up at the door and dropped
> off at the door.  Until this year this city (which provides the
> service) refused to drop the kids off or pick them up anywhere other
> than at one home address -- so not at day care, not at the sitter, and
> god help you if you are, for example, divorced or otherwise not living
> together.
>
> So mothers with kids with learning disabilities are pretty much washed
> up for working unless it's part time or self employment.  Large
> companies therefore find that solving the day care dilemma goes a long
> way to attracting and keeping employees.
>
> In many ways the Dutch do value work life balance more than Americans
> do.  But not in that way.  I don't think we are likely to follow this
> model in this area, as there are too many associated cultural
> differences we would be unlikely to accept.
>
> Jeannine
>
> On Dec 22, 4:22 pm, "TechVenue.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Mark,
>
> > Thank you!  This looks like a great system and again shows that we in
> > the USA have a lot to learn and adopt when it comes to sustainability
> > and work/life balance + valuing the whole family as a part of it all.
>
> > Looking forward to hearing more from others in the group -
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > David
>
> > Re:
>
> > On Dec 22, 8:17 am, Mark Gilbreath <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Onsight child care was a core element of the prototype "Smart Connected 
> > > Workcenter" (SWC) that cisco developed and launched in Almere Netherlands 
> > > (just outside Amsterdam) in 2008.  This project was a part of a broad 
> > > "Connected Urban Development" initiative that cisco developed, inspired 
> > > by their involvement in the Clinton Global Inititive on sustainability.  
> > > Much of what cisco demonstrated in this project (which has grown to a 
> > > substantial network of locations in the Netherlands and inspired other 
> > > projects around the globe) is relevant to coworking, including business 
> > > models, public/private partnership models, space planning concepts, 
> > > technology platforms (obviously, they want to promote their network, 
> > > voice and video solutions), and service offerings...including child care. 
> > >    Their focus with the the SWC demonstration was enterprise customers, 
> > > eg the IBM or HP employee who is looking for a more convenient, 
> > > sustainable, productive place to work in lieu of the corporate office 
> > > that may be further away (or as increasingly is the case at places like 
> > > IBM, where 42% of their employees work remotely, the SWC becomes their 
> > > only office.  
>
> > > Stuff to search on to find more info on this:  almere, SWC, smart work 
> > > center, CUD, connected urban development, bas boorsma, smart connected 
> > > work
>
> > > Mark Gilbreath
> > > CEO/Founder
> > > 208.720.8107
> > > [email protected]
>
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> > > We're a location-based mobile application that lets you use your phone to 
> > > find a better space to meet and work, book it, check in securely, and 
> > > share it with your colleagues.   Visitwww.liquidspaceapp.comtolearnmore!
>
> > > On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:25 AM, autena <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I agree, this is a critical issue for me.  I am a lot of the home-
> > > > based businesses and workers in my area are also parents that have to
> > > > be with their kids after school, or when the don't have child care
> > > > coverage.
>
> > > > I am actively trying to recruit a partner that could have this as a
> > > > "service-next-door". I belong to a Gym that has child care but the
> > > > drop off is limited to 2 hours.
> > > > I think this is a great discussion, would love to know what other
> > > > members think/do about this.
> > > > -A
>
> > > > On Dec 21, 5:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Hi All,
>
> > > >> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> > > >> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
> > > >> Felicity athttp://www.cubesandcrayons.comhassharedina few threads
> > > >> already, and has a great thing going - I hope it spreads.
>
> > > >> If this need is not considered to some degree in coworking business
> > > >> plans, I'm concerned this could be an obstacle to inclusion and
> > > >> therefore long term sustainability for coworking, as there's always a
> > > >> piece of the coworking pie that for ~18 years of their career have
> > > >> dependents. That's a huge chunk of prospective community members.
>
> > > >> For that matter, could childcare facility partnerships with coworking
> > > >> spaces be mutually beneficial if they are located in close proximity?
>
> > > >> --
>
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>
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