Thank you thank you thank you, Tony. So well said, and rings true for me in
many ways.

This connects quite well to the fact that I always try to steer people away
from describing coworking as a "service" to be provided to folks. A service
implies simplicity, a start and a finish, and the relationship between
service provider and consumer to be more separate than intwined.

Coworking is not a service. It is complicated, ongoing, and invites the
intertwining of relationships as opposed to the separation of such.

I love love love these conversations and hope that they spark folks
elsewhere to examine the how and the why of coworking in their lives.

Awesome stuff, folks.

Susan
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Tony Bacigalupo <[email protected]> wrote:

>  *So while many spaces sound like "true" coworking, they are still the
>> minority.  What can we do to fix this?*
>
>
> We fix this by not thinking of coworking as a static thing that needs
> defending but by focusing on the deeper, more meaningful concept that is
> driving coworking.
>
> If you think of coworking as a movement, then its purpose for existence,
> by definition, is to change the status quo. It also means that it, like all
> movements, has a finite life cycle. Coworking, the movement, compels
> existing institutions like office rental businesses to change how they do
> things. In that sense, that's exactly what is happening now.
>
> But what we're talking about goes far deeper than that. If all coworking
> did was create a world in which anyone anywhere could find a local
> community of people to work alongside and collaborate with, whether by way
> of small community space or large workspace provider, that would be
> awesome.
>
> But to stop there would betray the far deeper and more important shift
> that is taking place.
>
> When Brad Neuberg invented 
> Coworking<http://codinginparadise.org/weblog/2005/08/coworking-community-for-developers-who.html>,
>  with
> a capital "C", he envisioned a more complete support system for people who
> were otherwise on their own. They maintained a mutual schedule of business
> hours, went to lunch together, and did group activities. It wasn't located
> in an office facility; it was in a wellness center.
>
> In other words, it was about far more than workspace from the outset.
>
> A lot of what he pioneered was ahead of its time, but at the core of it is
> the need for us to think of this as a completely new framework for
> servicing the needs of a workforce that has total control over how, where,
> when, and why they work. That's really different from the workforce that
> the rest of the world is used to accommodating. The world is used to
> serving the needs of a workforce that commutes, works regular business
> hours, has a hierarchical employment system, regular paychecks, paid
> vacations, and all sorts of other constructs. Those things just don't fit
> the needs of these new folks anymore, and Coworking is the beginning of a
> solution.
>
> But it's only the beginning. For coworking communities to distinguish
> themselves as something obviously different from renting office space, we
> have to continuously strive to find new ways to better serve that new
> workforce.
>
> The fact that Benjamin and Derek and others have distanced themselves from
> "coworking" is a wake-up call. If we ("who's we?") are to continue to
> compel the attention, respect, admiration, awe, and participation of a
> world of people for whom the old ways don't work, we have to continue to
> work hard to earn it by aspiring to better fulfill those deeper needs, and
> by continuing to bring this future to light.
>
> Keeping the perception of the word "coworking" centered on this deeper
> concept is important and it merits healthy discussion, but we only have so
> much control over that-- and, ultimately, it's just a shortcut.
>
> What we're really talking about is work as we know it, and what it will
> look like when we change it.
>
> Tony Bacigalupo
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> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Is making a profit for a business necessarily bad for the coworking
>> community?
>> Coworking has brought about great ways to collaborate, and to create
>> community.  Those kinds of intangible ideals will obviously manifest in
>> many different ways.  I don't think there is one "true" coworking, nor two
>> or three, just as there is no one "true" art.
>>
>>
>> Jerome
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>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Derek Neighbors wrote:
>>
>> Beth,
>>
>> As someone who also has distanced themselves from "coworking" I can
>> sympathize.  Coworking as a fad has become largely about space owners
>> trying to make money running their "coworking business" and/or propagating
>> corporations are evil and freelancer nation will rule the world.  All of
>> these things make building community more difficult in the long run.
>>
>> I think the initial incarnation of coworking was very much about
>> community, but it became a victim of its own success and now a days its
>> hard to distinguish most coworking spaces from shared office groups like
>> Regus other than more modern layout/furniture.
>>
>> I think that Alex at IndyHall, Tony at NewWorkCity and the good folks at
>> Office Nomads have made a great push in the last two years to try to get
>> things centered back around community and many others have stepped up and
>> started to turn the ship.
>>
>> So while many spaces sound like "true" coworking, they are still the
>> minority.  What can we do to fix this?
>>
>> --
>> Derek Neighbors
>> Gangplank
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Beth Buczynski <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm confused...Benjamin goes to such great lengths to say that Grind
>>> isn't a coworking space because it's not "an incubator or an
>>> accelerator" and that the "chairs, the tables, the real-estate,
>>> renting a seat or a desk are secondary to constructing a strong
>>> community." That sounds EXACTLY like true coworking to me! While
>>> coworking spaces can act like incubators, the spaces that exist purely
>>> to facilitate this aren't necessarily committed to the community
>>> aspects that set coworking apart from every other type of work space.
>>> On a related but unrelated note, Grind's pop-up coworking space during
>>> SxSW was really great. Anyone else check it out?
>>>
>>> Beth
>>> @gonecoworking
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 8:07 pm, David Singer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > David Judson, the proprietor ofwww.mystartstory.com-- long form
>>> > interview of founders of starups has included two piorneering
>>> > coworking/collaborative workspace founders in his series: Benjamin
>>> > Dyett, founder of Grind [www.grindspaces.com] and Jenifer Ross,
>>> > Founder of W@tercooler [www.watercoolerhub.com].  I highly recommend
>>> > these reads -- both of these individuals have inspired me to do a deep
>>> > dive into exploring coworking on multiple levels.  The links to the
>>> > interviews are here:
>>> >
>>> > Benjamin Dyett:  http://mystartstory.com/benjamin-dyett/
>>> >
>>> > Jenifer Ross:  http://mystartstory.com/jenifer-ross/
>>> >
>>> > David A. Singerwww.twitter.com/davidasinger
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