We're running comcast business at 50/10, with hardware to support going up to 
100 down (can't recall the up on that level)  



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On Monday, January 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Jerome Chang wrote:

> I keep hearing about this Comcast 50mbps connection from those who have 
> Comcast...is it 50/50????
> We have a 15/1 DSL from Megapath and if more than 2 people download 
> intensively, it might as well be 1/1.
>  
>  
> Jerome
> ______________
> BLANKSPACES
> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>  
> www.blankspaces.com (http://www.blankspaces.com)
> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
> 323.330.9505 (office)  
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Tom Brandt <[email protected] 
> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > We have a Comcast 50mbps connection which is our main connection, and an 
> > AT&T 18mbps u-verse connection for our backup. We have a router, the 
> > brand/model of which I have forgotten, which handles failover. Like 
> > IndyHall, it's more upstream latency that's an issue rather than the 
> > connection speed.    
> >  
> > The Comcast connection has been surprisingly reliable and Comcast's 
> > customer service shockingly responsive. AT&T customer service is 
> > characteristically sucky. Fortunately we don't need them very much.
> >  
> > I can look at the failover router we use if people are interested in the 
> > brand and model.
> >  
> > ---
> > twb
> > Sent from my aye phone
> >  
> > On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected] 
> > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> >  
> > > Truthfully, I can't say that Clear is much of a solution for anything and 
> > > I'd consider it as an experiment largely a failure.  
> > >  
> > > When we fail over to it everybody still knows it. In order to even send 
> > > an email to our list to let people know about the outage, I usually end 
> > > up tethering to my iPhone.  
> > >  
> > > We don't have other broadband ISP options. DSL options are in the same 
> > > speed territory as Clear, and FiOS can't get here soon enough.  
> > >  
> > > I've been negotiating with some local fiber providers to do a deal with 
> > > us, but even when I get them into "reasonable" territory it's still an 
> > > order of magnitude more expensive than we're currently paying.
> > >  
> > > Comcast business class is fast as hell…when it's up. Which is most of the 
> > > time, depending on the season :)
> > >  
> > > -Alex
> > >  
> > > --
> > > /ah
> > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org/)
> > > coworking in philadelphia
> > >  
> > >  
> > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected] 
> > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > > Ugh.  Clear works all around our office, but not immediately on this 
> > > > block.  Same goes near my house.
> > > > Sorry everyone.  Clear could've solved a bunch of things for me but I 
> > > > had to search elsewhere.
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > Jerome
> > > > ______________
> > > > BLANKSPACES
> > > > "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
> > > >  
> > > > www.blankspaces.com (http://www.blankspaces.com/)
> > > > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
> > > > 323.330.9505 (office)  
> > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected] 
> > > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > > > We currently pay $50/month for a Clear 4g modem that we fail over to. 
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > > It gets swallowed up really fast, and I might argue that no internet 
> > > > > is worse than internet that barely works.   
> > > > >  
> > > > > We actually have more issues with upstream latency than actual 
> > > > > download/upload speeds. The end effect for our members is "the 
> > > > > internet is slow or intermittent", but for the most part our pfsense 
> > > > > configuration has addressed most of it and helps us address 
> > > > > additional issues as they happen.   
> > > > >  
> > > > > --
> > > > > /ah
> > > > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org/)
> > > > > coworking in philadelphia
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Mojo <[email protected] 
> > > > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > > > > This is a very timely post - as our area of the city experienced a 
> > > > > > system-wide outage for about 15 minutes the other day with Charter. 
> > > > > >  We have a Charter Business service with 50Mbps ... and no usage 
> > > > > > cap.  We have a wireless router on each floor to complement the 24 
> > > > > > ethernet ports distributed throughout the space.    I agree with 
> > > > > > Alex - at coworking space should NEVER be without 
> > > > > > easy/uncomplicated connection to awesome quality Internet service.  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > So, after the outage the other day, we're looking at a back up.  
> > > > > > Some members suggested that we look at a 4G connection just to 
> > > > > > activate during emergency outages.  We also have another really 
> > > > > > great local ISP here called Skyrunner.  Does anyone have a true 
> > > > > > "back up" system in place?  If so, I'd love to hear more.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > I also would like to explore further the idea of throttling 
> > > > > > bandwidth hogs.  I don't think we have many ... but is there a way 
> > > > > > to see which connections are using the most?
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > On password changes ... we only changed passwords once in the past 
> > > > > > 2 years.  We moved locations and it was like starting new again.  
> > > > > > We felt like it made sense to have a new passwork  ;-)
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Craig
> > > > > >    
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2013 11:28:05 AM UTC-5, Alex Hillman wrote:
> > > > > > > +1 to everything Jerome said.  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > There's plenty of pain within a network of people who are 
> > > > > > > SUPPOSED to be able to get on the network. You don't also want to 
> > > > > > > make it hard for people to connect in the first place.  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > /ah
> > > > > > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org/)
> > > > > > > coworking in philadelphia
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Jerome Chang 
> > > > > > > <[email protected] (javascript:)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > We haven't changed our password in 2+ years either, 
> > > > > > > > however...our issues are everything after that initial 
> > > > > > > > authentication.  One of the biggest problems we have is 
> > > > > > > > someone's hogging our bandwidth. Drop a 500mb movie file in 
> > > > > > > > Dropbox midday and then, it's like rush hour heading into the 
> > > > > > > > Lincoln Tunnel. So we have to throttle each user, etc.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > OR, one side of the office somehow has way more devices on it 
> > > > > > > > so we need the other AP's to help balance the load.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > OR, one Internet feed drops so the 2nd/back-up needs to kick in 
> > > > > > > > immediately, and likely with different throttling settings 
> > > > > > > > since it has less bandwidth.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > OR there are too many other AP's nearby and their channels or 
> > > > > > > > whatever cause enough interference.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Etc
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Jerome (not from an EvilBerry)
> > > > > > > > www.BLANKSPACES.com (http://www.blankspaces.com/)
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Tom Brandt <[email protected] 
> > > > > > > > (javascript:)> wrote:
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > We've changed ours once in three years, and it is a pain both 
> > > > > > > > > to inform the members and for members with older machines to 
> > > > > > > > > change it.
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > twb
> > > > > > > > > Sent from my aye phone
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Alex Hillman 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected] (javascript:)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > We've changed ours twice in 6 years. The inconvenience of 
> > > > > > > > > > constantly changing passwords is a killer for the members.  
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > Is there a particular thing that you're concerned about 
> > > > > > > > > > that has you wanting to change the password daily?
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > -Alex
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > /ah
> > > > > > > > > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org/)
> > > > > > > > > > coworking in philadelphia
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Melissa Saubers 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] (javascript:)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you change them on a daily basis?
> > > > > > > > > > > Or do you use a similar system that a hotel would use 
> > > > > > > > > > > where the user has to sign in each day and it's good for 
> > > > > > > > > > > 24 hours (not sure what it's called)?
> > > > > > > > > > > Or something else?
> > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > >  
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