Hey Alex I'm starting a new post on my blog titled, Co-working - A fad or phenomena? - and am wondering if I can use one of your pix from IH. If so, can you email to me? Much thanks. If not, no worries. cheers.
On Friday, March 15, 2013 2:38:52 AM UTC+7, Alex Hillman wrote: > > Sweet. Good luck, keep us posted! > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > > > > On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Bobby Liu <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > not to plug it but I have recently started a blog on tech, amongst other > blogs I've started, http://startupsasia.wordpress.com/. I will certainly > be documenting the adventure of starting my coworking space. I'm actually > from Singapore but have been living in Hanoi for sometime. Thanks for the > interest of my endeavor, let's do stay in touch, I need ot learn more from > 'veterans' like yourself. > > On Friday, March 15, 2013 2:30:05 AM UTC+7, Alex Hillman wrote: >> >> Alex..for one, Hanoi, or Vietnam, for that matter, is still a >> city/country trying to overcome its past and in the process of achieving >> economic growth as an emerging economy. >> >> >> This is *very* true, and an important factor. On a personal level, I'd >> love to hear more about how you see coworking having an opportunity to >> contribute to overcoming that past. That's a story - and a purpose - that I >> think more people (including your prospective members) will be able to >> understand and get behind than "sharing workspace + community = cool!" >> >> It's a very different context, my own story came from a similar place. I >> felt that we were a city living in its own past instead of it's future. I >> found others that felt that way, and that became the core of our community. >> I've got a super-truncated version of that story from a couple of summers >> ago, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsVZz8dZ_h8 >> >> However, and to build upon that story... >> >> The idea of co-working is still very new in Vietnam with less than 5 in >> the country. I'll probably be #5. >> >> >> I'll remind you (as I've reminded others) that when I executed my "spend >> $0, start the community first" bootstrapping model, there were only a few >> coworking spaces in the united states (at least that were using the term) >> and ZERO in Philadelphia. >> >> I totally see where you're coming from, but did you notice what you're >> comparing yourself to? *Places*. Business centers, virtual offices, >> internet cafes and bars. >> * >> * >> *"As it is, I'm having a hard time telling people why I love working out >> of a cafe even tho I have an office."* That's because, until there's >> community, there's not much difference other than your intent (which is >> really hard to express without practice). >> >> To be clear, I'm not saying you went about this the wrong way, Bobby. >> There's plenty of people who've successfully catalyzed community after >> opening the physical space. Many will agree that it was harder than they >> expected. >> >> But the "people haven't heard of coworking" reason - as my veteran >> counterparts will attest - has been a problem since the beginning and it's >> only gotten *better*, not worse, regardless of where in the world you're >> located. >> >> I'm hoping that your story of "Why coworking is important for Hanoi" is >> something that's a prominent part of your message. That's a powerful seed >> for building community, regardless of what stage of the physical space >> you're in. >> >> -Alex >> >> >> -- >> /ah >> indyhall.org >> coworking in philadelphia >> >> >> >> On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Bobby Liu <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Alex..for one, Hanoi, or Vietnam, for that matter, is still a >> city/country trying to overcome its past and in the process of achieving >> economic growth as an emerging economy. The idea of co-working is still >> very new in Vietnam with less than 5 in the country. I'll probably be #5. >> To your $0 idea in building community, it works when you're able to gather >> or are exposed to a wider like-minded individuals who understand the >> concept. At the moment, I have to equate co-working space to Business >> Centers or Virtual Office...at one point, it was compared to an internet >> cafe/bar. As it is, I'm having a hard time telling people why I love >> working out of a cafe even tho I have an office. >> >> There's still this perception of what corporate world is...the image in >> the minds of the young...sort of akin to the 80s graduates? But I'm >> optimistic, given the high percentage of Vietnamese under 35 (about 50%). >> With the easy access of internet here (much much better than China. My 3G >> plan is $2 per month on pre-paid card), I'm sure the idea of co-working, >> once introduced, will spread virally. >> >> On Friday, March 15, 2013 2:05:10 AM UTC+7, Alex Hillman wrote: >>> >>> Bobby - I'm sure that there are lots of cultural differences around the >>> world where the things that we do don't work. >>> >>> I'm curious why that's the case for Hanoi, in your perspective? >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> -- >>> /ah >>> indyhall.org >>> coworking in philadelphia >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Bobby Liu <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Alex...btw, have read your post also...very cool on ZERO $ >>> idea...unfortunately, doesn't quite work in Hanoi... >>> >>> On Friday, March 15, 2013 2:01:05 AM UTC+7, Alex Hillman wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Bobby! >>>> >>>> Check out the Coworking Visa page on the wiki: >>>> http://wiki.coworking.com/w/page/16583744/CoworkingVisa >>>> >>>> Congratulations, and welcome to the community :) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> /ah >>>> indyhall.org >>>> coworking in philadelphia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Bobby Liu <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, yes, you're reading correctly. Co-working space in Hanoi, >>>> Vietnam. Currently, there's only one other space, and only recently opened >>>> (open house next week!). I've been reading this forum and it's a wealth of >>>> info to my learning on how to set up a co-working space. >>>> >>>> I'd like to know tho, are co-working spaces practice reciprocal use >>>> with each other? If so, I'd like to see how I can set up such arrangement. >>>> I don't foresee too many hours used but is always nice to know that if and >>>> when required, it is made available. 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