Hi Oren I think I understand your point of view. Bu then we should make it even more simple:
No wiki pages - just a structured list with contact information of the spaces. All in one place. Easy to browse and filter. To have a map is not essential - but nice for marketing purpose ;-) I like the idea to have city/country admins to take care of the their list entries in order to keep a high level of quality - that's what we try to achieve with our list of coworking spaces in Switzerland. What do you think? Cheers Xaver On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:28:03 PM UTC+2, [email protected] wrote: > > Sorry Xavier, > > Rereading what I just posted, it appears that I forgot to spell out the > conclusion: Documenting anything beyond physical and virtual locations (URL > and address) would create a very uneven playing field for spaces to present > themselves to members. Members will want to check out the website and > location of a space anyways before making a selection, so the best we can > hope for is to standardize a minimal presentation of those facts for them > to make their own decision. > > Any space should be able to demonstrate what they want to demonstrate on > their own website. > > Most members just want to know what's out there and from there they can > figure out on their own what's offered at each stage. > > This isn't a restaurant or a hotel where a member would want all the > information up front because a visit implies business. A first visit to a > coworking space usually just implies a tour since the ongoing relationship > (as opposed to first visit) is what the space is after. > > As such, less is more here. > > Hope that helps! > Oren > > On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:16:25 PM UTC-5, [email protected] > wrote: >> >> Hey Xavier, >> >> While I would encourage you to contribute to the Open Coworking Map (wink >> wink) as opposed to the directory on the Wiki, I'm a member of both efforts >> and so the discussions overlap quite a bit. It seems to be that you're >> interested in working on something, so regardless if you team up with me, >> I'll share my insights in the spirit of being open. >> >> It is nearly impossible to create a platform that can fairly and >> consistently display all the "features" of a space since so many of them >> ("vibes" as you mentioned or "community") are intangible or incredibly >> subjective. As such, any feature list comparison chart would invariably >> sell some spaces short on what they "offer" to members. >> >> Also, members are a very finicky bunch and in almost every instance want >> to shop around (in person typically). >> >> Even with all those considerations, the primary reason to steer clear of >> such a thing is the integrity of the data. The more features you pile up to >> document, the larger burden you're placing on the maintainer of the data. >> If you think each space should manage their own listing, good luck with >> standardization and even better luck with convincing all the spaces in any >> area, let alone the whole world, to opt-in. >> >> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 2:39:35 PM UTC-5, Xaver Inglin wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jeannine >>> >>> I just checked some examples on the wiki space directory: very different >>> approaches for each city: It is hard to use since you have to learn how >>> (different) each page "works". I know this is a community project, but some >>> structure/templates would help to make it easier to maintain and more fun >>> to navigate. Did you already think about other taxonomy/attributes besides >>> geography to describe the spaces? What services do they offer, what do they >>> feel like (vibes) ... the one thing that makes this space unique? May be it >>> is better to have a single page for every space and then work with >>> categories/tags to build overviews (... although I do not yet know the >>> features/limitations of this wiki platform ...) >>> >>> I hope this does not feel to pushy .. Just thinking out loud. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Xaver >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:09:44 PM UTC+2, Jeannine wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, Xaver, >>>> >>>> That was me who followed you on Quora today. And also me who sent you >>>> that email about the Wiki. :-) >>>> >>>> I would love for you to put your directory on the Wiki, on the Front >>>> Page there is a listing for Directories and listings. >>>> >>>> The Wiki Directory is fundamentally organized by city, because that's >>>> how we find that people look for a coworking space. Knowing that there >>>> are >>>> coworking spaces in the Netherlands (where I am) is not especially helpful >>>> if they are all in Amsterdam and the Hague and you are working in >>>> Eindhoven >>>> or Maastricht. The city links are then inded organized by country or by >>>> region if there are a lot of them. >>>> >>>> The pages are as detailed or as general as the peple in the area want >>>> to make them: I think Tabby did a beautiful job with Coworking >>>> Joh-burg >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.coworking.org%2Fw%2Fpage%2F16583538%2FCoworkingJohannesburg&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHLD6FumerNXSRKd9oZmn8bCiOZEg>, >>>> >>>> Coworking Paris >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.coworking.org%2Fw%2Fpage%2F16583648%2FCoworkingParis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHirNhykxZCl97oiQ1TliELGPNAFA> >>>> >>>> is more understated but nevertheless gets the idea across, and I think >>>> Coworking >>>> New York >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.coworking.org%2Fw%2Fpage%2F16583629%2FCoworkingNewYorkCity&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEyVKOZzIQdag2vxOGqVmkJ6qJHTw> >>>> >>>> also makes clear who is doing what. I think Coworking San Francisco >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.coworking.org%2Fw%2Fpage%2F16583935%2FSanFranciscoCoworking&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHcICbI1QSYCzbWRpsTbdPgI-6mmQ> >>>> >>>> intentionally chose to keep pictures and so on out, so as to cut down on >>>> placement competition. >>>> >>>> But Open Coworking is an all volunteer army, whose population ebbs and >>>> flows over time. If you feel a need to work on the Worldwide Coworking >>>> Directory, then we would love to work with you. I happen to have a handy >>>> dandy little form for you to sign up right here. >>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OSN5usfq3bnwkZrBEJGF1z2wUbGSzWNkA3NSQZzCdB8/viewform> >>>> >>>> As it happens. :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> Jeannine >>>> >>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:48:18 PM UTC+2, Xaver Inglin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> The coworking scene in Switzerland is growing - see our directory of >>>>> spaces http://coworking-schweiz.ch/?page_id=54 >>>>> >>>>> It would make sense to publish this information on a world wide >>>>> directory - but where? >>>>> >>>>> Here is what I found so far: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - http://wiki.coworking.org/w/page/29303049/Directory is still >>>>> maintained but is just a listing by regions/countries: no further >>>>> attributes/criteria that allows to pick an appropriate coworking space. >>>>> - this discussion on Quora >>>>> http://www.quora.com/Is-there-a-global-directory-of-coworking-spaces >>>>> provides some hints, but not really an answer to my question. >>>>> >>>>> I feel a need for the "Worldwide Coworking Directory". >>>>> >>>>> Anyone else? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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