Alex,
Thanks for all this. I've definitely already thought through many of the 
points you bring up and I think that I instinctively know that keeping the 
idea front and center is the right move.

.g

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 10:48:15 AM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> Option #2 "feels" better to me because that was my original idea.
>
>
> That was my hunch :)
>
> Two warnings:
>
> 1 - Coworking as a way to subsidize the cost of a space you'd like to have 
> but can't afford, more often than not, ends up with you taking on even MORE 
> space than you need and then being financially responsible for it. 
> Worse...this ends up not being treated like a business because it's not 
> your primary business. 
>
> You don't have to make a coworking space your ONLY business if you don't 
> want to, but I'd caution you from thinking that you can just pop up a space 
> and run it on the side *indefinitely*. 
>
> 2 - Be careful of letting yourself become a slave to an "idea" instead of 
> focusing on how to best serve a community. There are two paths, only one 
> leads to success in business: 
>
> 1) serve an idea
> 2) serve a customer
>
> *Hint: your "idea" will keep asking to borrow money. ;)*
>
> Your "idea" is going to change and morph over time no matter what you do, 
> so locking into a specific idea now is setting yourself up for quite a bit 
> of headache and heartache down the road.  
>
> This also comes down to what your goals are beyond how you divvy up space. 
> Studio rental tends to become a fairly thankless and transactional business 
> by comparison to a community space, UNLESS you have a plan for putting work 
> to the community building work into things, like Angel has done with Cohere 
> Bandwidth <http://coherebandwidth.com> by embedding it into a bigger 
> local community of arts and creativity. Making a studio a part of a bigger 
> creative ecosystem, either locally or online, can help you create a MUCH 
> more resilient model. 
>
> It also puts you in a position to know who the community that uses it is, 
> and thus having a much better sense of how to structure your memberships 
> <http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2015/10/the-ultimate-guide-to-structuring-your-coworking-space-memberships/>
>  
> to cover costs and even fund the opening 
> <http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2011/09/how-to-fund-your-coworking-space/> in 
> the first place. 
>
> Do you want to be in the business of renting space? Or do you want to be 
> surrounded by creative people? They're not exactly mutually exclusive, but 
> the direction your personal priorities lean should color this decision.
>
> -Alex
>
>
> ------------------
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> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Geoffrey Badner <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Alex & Katherine,
>> Thanks for your replies.
>>
>> Option #2 "feels" better to me because that was my original idea. After 
>> looking for ways to fund the space (at NYC rents) the coworking space came 
>> into the picture. I've worked in several coworking spaces in NYC and always 
>> felt they were lacking in ways that I could improve on.
>>
>> That issue aside, your comments echo those of others who have seen the 
>> space I'm considering. They seem to feel that, even with having the two 
>> spaces well separated and insulated for sound, having people shooting in 
>> the studio will disrupt the coworking space. Also, having people in the 
>> studio worry about annoying the people in the office areas would bring an 
>> an unappealing worry to the creative space.
>>
>> I think I'll probably end up with something similar to these 
>> membership-based shoot studios:
>> http://westststudios.com
>> http://studioslic.com (I'm currently a member here)
>>
>> Just not confident I can afford to do this in the space I want.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> ~ Geoffrey
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:58:03 PM UTC-4, Geoffrey Badner wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello. First post here :)
>>>
>>> I'm a photographer from Brooklyn, NY and I'm interested in opening a 
>>> shared creative space for others in the photo business – photographers, 
>>> hair/makeup, stylists, etc. I've located an excellent 7,000 sq. ft space 
>>> and have done a couple of layout plans that map back to two different 
>>> business models. 
>>>
>>> *1: Shared Desks + Studio*
>>> This idea cuts the space into 2/3rds hot desks, permanent desks and a 
>>> couple of offices with 1/3 remaining for a single large studio space. This 
>>> allows for daily drop ins, month to month desk and a couple closed office 
>>> rentals and is designed to provide a steadier cash flow for the space while 
>>> also providing a very nice shoot space.
>>>
>>> *2: Three Studios*
>>> This idea removes all of the desks and offices and uses almost the 
>>> entire floor for three studio spaces (plus a nice common area with couches 
>>> and a conference room). This is more what I feel like I want to do, but it 
>>> relies completely on community members booking the studios regularly to 
>>> support the community. To do this, I have to charge a higher monthly price 
>>> point for even the lowest tier.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering... is option 2 just too much of a niche? Option 1 seems 
>>> like the smarter business decision, but I really like the concept of 2.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
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