On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 08:16:40AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> 
> IMHO while the 20-80 rule is known in many situations 4-96 is a bit
> unhealthy.

Why?

For a project like CPAN Testers there are always likely to be more
occasional testers than dedicated ones. Many of the top ten testers have
multiple machines, so that 4-96 calculation is a bit misleading.

Plus I have no problem with occasional testers, their input is just as
valuable as those who are able to run automated smokers, as they run
tests often on real live environments, and can spot potential problems
that automated smokers may not.

> but we might think of a way to get companies do so as well.

I have to say I'm a little dubious of this. While I'm happy to have
companies encouraging their employees to contribute, having a faceless
email address to a support team is not helpful when there are problems.
There is at least one tester that has their email address as the company
support address, and I've never gotten an answer from it.

> all kinds of agreements I signed like not using the
> companies equipment for other things.

This is certainly true for a number of companies, but some are
supportive of testing environments.

> So I wonder if there could be a way to encourage companies to so they will
> encourage their employees to send in such reports?
> 
> The sore point of the companies is employment of Perl developers. So maybe
> a leaderboard of *companies* with a counter of the reports their employees
> sent in?

Obtaining free promotion for their companies? This is another reason why
I would prefer individuals to promote CT within their company. I'm very
reluctant to provide this sort of scoreboard, when the servers CT
currently run on don't come cheap and we're giving away free
advertising. I know it might mean we get some additional reports, but
the benefit to the company is likely to be far greater than for CT.

> Maybe creating some logos of the CPAN Testers (probably even including
> a counter) that can be displayed on web sites?

We already have the smoking onion logo. If someone wants to work with
that to create some nice logos to be used on websites that support CT,
then I'd be happy to provide a page for them.

Cheers,
Barbie.
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