Hi Anahide,

thanks for the fast answer.

Anahide Tchertchian wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to adopt CPS and CPSWorkflow for a studentadministration
>> process.
>>
>> The most problems I have in doing this is mapping the documentpublishing
>> centric view of CPS to this process.
>>
>> CPS and CPSWorkflow is about publishing documents in a collaborative
>> way. The creation and reviewing process happens in a workspaces and the
>> resulting document is published in a section.
>> The creator is the owner.
> 
> 
> I'm not sure I agree : *CPSDefault* is about publishing documents, but
> CPSWorkflow (and CPS) are not so specific ; you can adapt you workflow
> for such a purpose.
> However CPSWorkflow is document centric, this is a constraint inherited
> from DCWorkflow. But this is not a problem for your use case.
> 
>> In a studentregistration it is very different:
>> - The creator of a student-record (document) is the studentadministrator
>> - A student may only view and modify certain data of HER/HIS record
> 
> Ok so other data need to be editable by other users (student
> administrator perhaps? 
sure, but it also must not be even viewable by other students
> 
>> - A student must fill in other data of HER/HIS record
>> - A student may view only certain data, which others fill in i.e.
>> examination results.
>> - the record gets never really published, it goes through a lifecyle,
>> so the notion of workspaces and sections makes no real sense here.
> 
> Then chose where you'd like these documents to live (sections or
> workspaces) and leave them there : your document does not *have* to go
> through a publication related transition.
> 
>> So my question is, did anybody already use CPS for such a purpose, or
>> can give advise how to do so ?
> 
> 
> Yes, we use CPS and its workflows for purposes like this one very often.
> 
Are there examples, where I could take a look at ?

> I would advise (if you chose workspaces as the main container) to make a
> mapping between different users and roles available in workspaces. Let's
> say student administrators will be defined by the fact that they have
> the WorkspaceManager role, and students will be defined by the
> WorkspaceMember role.
> 
> Then you'll define your workflow using these roles taking care of your
> conditions.

Ok I chose a section as the main, container in our prototype. How would
I achieve that a student only see's his/her data, can I (ab)use the
owner-attribute for that ?
Or the question asked CPSWorkflow specific. What is the role of the
student I put on the workflow-stack or do I put the student-memberid on
the workflowstack, if only he is allowed to do something at this stage.

> 
> I'm not sure I understand what is the life cycle through which your
> document goes: what are your states/transitions? This is the first
> designing step.
> 

The lifecycle of the student-record should reflect the students
lifecycle at the university, I created the student-record therefore as a
folderish document, which can contain the data for the different
semesters for example.
By the way, do you use any tools for describing and visulisation of
workflows ?

> About protection of some of the document data, you can play with the
> widgets condition expressions to control the presentation (and have
> conditions like: "if user is a WorkspaceManager and layout mode is
> 'edit' or 'create', widget mode is 'edit' too, else it is 'view'")
> 

Thanks for the hint.

> I'm not going through details now, because it looks like you're not
> there yet, but do not hesitate to ask other questions.

Actually we have already a working prototype, which uses the basic
CPSworkflow just for documentcreation and editing.
And now I want to add the "real" workflow to it.


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