Le 19/08/2010 15:36, Racinet Georges a écrit :
> 
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Encolpe Degoute wrote:
>>
>> I wrote an article to explain how to install Python2.4 on Ubuntu 10.4 :
>> http://encolpe.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/how-to-get-python-2-4-or-2-5-for-ubuntu-10-4/
>>
> 
> So you're saying that all that has to be done is to put Karmic's
> python2.4 package in our Lucid repository, right ? One hack I'd seen
> online was simply to switch sources.list to Karmic the time to get
> python2.4 and related stuff -- that's definitely too ugly.

No.
It was a specific branch developed for lucid that was abandoned when
they decided to keep 'only' 3 python version (2.5, 2.6 and 3.1).


> I'm still a bit concerned about updates and libraries (python-imaging
> etc.). We don't want people to think it's as robust as a supported and
> updated package in the official repos. I wouldn't use time checking
> Karmic updates, but if someone does it already, that's different.

The advantage of this method is that you keep the ubuntu packaging
system then all additional python packages you will install will be
installed on python2.4 automatically.

On my own, I'm using a virtualenv for each plone/cps project I'm developing.


> I'll give it a try as soon as I have a vanilla Lucid installation on
> hand, anyway.
> 
> Maintaining self compiled versions is too much work to my taste.

CPS is a big piece.
You should work with the Plone packagers as you concern are very similar.

>> Have you plan to port CPS on Zope 2.12/2.13 or on pur Zope 3 ?
> 
> Ahah, the big question, and you're not the first to ask. I'm all in
> favor of a move to Zope 2.12 for CPS 3.6, but certainly  not within the
> next three months.
> Pure ZTK (Bluebream maybe?) would be probably even better, but I just
> don't know if that would be possible without sacrificing too much.

As CMF is not available in pure bluebream version (and no work is done
in that way as far I know) it would be difficult to port CPS on
bluebream without removing CMF.

> Now the thing is that I personally lack real experience on Zope > 2.9,
> and probably won't get any before such works could begin. Not to say
> that'd be a real problem for implementation, but that's a big one in the
> foreseeing department (we can start discussing possibilities on
> cps-devel if you wish). Also, beforehand advice wouldn't be enough: we
> obviously need more active developers.

Yes. It's a community reboot.

> I know there are interested and knowledgeable people around, but no one
> (including me) will move until it starts looking doable. If everyone
> showed up in a discussion with no required commitment, things could very
> well be different.
> 
> As for the immediate future. I'm a bit tired of big jumps. Finishing and
> merging the unicode branches meant lots of work, and accepting big risks
> for our bleeding-edge production instances -- for no visible new
> features. So, it's time to calm down, finish to stabilize 3.5.1 and do
> the cool stuff that's been postponed precisely because of this release
> (been waiting for months for http://trac.cps-cms.org/ticket/2205, for
> instance, that I really needed). I guess any real implementation work
> would have to wait until 2011.

I'm understanding that take this big project on your shoulders is hard.
I'm asking for this to know if I can motive my boos to come on this project.

Cheers,
-- 
Encolpe DEGOUTE
http://encolpe.degoute.free.fr/
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