Sounds like the 'free market' working to me...a business does have the
right to tell a customer "No, I don't think I want your money." Forcing
the upstream provider to do something they don't want to do simply for
their own economic profit doesn't sound like a very reasonable view. Not
everything is modeled in 'economic' terms.
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Eric Cordian wrote:
> Phix, the ISP who for many years hosted BoyChat, and currently hosts
> SafeHaven, has just been threated with a total bandwidth cutoff by its
> upstream provider unless SafeHaven is terminated. The upstream provider,
> Hostcentric, is using the "in its sole descretion" clause in their
> contract with Phix to force this.
>
> Phix, a longtime champion of free speech as long as no laws are violated,
> considers this the last straw in a neverending series of acts of
> harrassment, and is planning on going out of business in June.
>
> Sometimes the bad guys win.
>
> Forwarded Message:
>
> >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 15 15:42 PDT 2001
> Subject: Possible shutdown notice for www.safet.net
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:44:26 -0400
> From: "Brian Daffern"
>
> Subject: RE: www.safet.net
>
> Pursuant to Hostcentric's Acceptable Use Policy (AUP), Hostcentric/Maxim
> reserves the absolute right (in its sole discretion) to remove any web
> site for any reason (including those itemized in the AUP), and to
> terminate any services agreement relating to such web site. Accordingly,
> this email will serve as notice to you that Hostcentric intends to
> exercise this right and requests that you terminate www.safet.net, one of
> the websites at IP number 209.25.139.67 immediately. If you fail to
> terminate the site within three days of the date on this email Hostcentric
> will proceed to deactivate the entire IP.
>
> We appreciate your assistance in this matter.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Brian Daffern
>
>
> Forwarded Message:
>
> From: Anne McGee
> Subject: Possible shutdown notice for www.safet.net (fwd)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:55:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Dave,
>
> I'm sorry to inform you that our upstream provider has given us 3 days to
> terminate www.safet.net or they will terminate our service.
>
> Over the last few years we (Corey and I) have incurred tremendous
> liability standing up for what we believe to be a free speech issue. Corey
> was escorted (by armed security guards) off the premises of a company
> where he held a contract position when his association with Phix was
> brought to their attention. I've been the source of gossip and lost
> friends who don't share my viewpoint.
>
> Because i'm growing tired of the constant fight, threats, and lawyers fees
> i've decided to close Phix by the end of June. I asked them to allow us
> more time so that our users can relocate their sites but they haven't
> given me an answer yet.
>
> If I don't get an extention from them the site will be closed May 17th.
> You will still have access to retreive your files but traffic will not
> longer reach the site.
>
> They haven't given us notice regarding ibld.net and .org but I expect it's
> coming.
>
> I apologize.
>
> Anne
> Phix-net
>
> --
> Eric Michael Cordian 0+
> O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division
> "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
>
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