At 10:59 AM -0400 5/20/01, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>At 11:29 AM 5/19/01 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>
>>The question I hope to hear from Declan on is whether the Kirkland 
>>lawyers are citing some law against reporting on their cops, or 
>>merely don't like what he did.
>
>Neither, actually. They claim that I'm acting "in concert" with 
>justicefiles.org by quoting three lines from the site. And, Kirkland 
>claims, that means I'm bound by the court's injunction against 
>justicefiles.org.
>
>I leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine whether the "in 
>concert" claim is a logically valid one.

So, is the Google site acting "in concert" with justicefiles? Is the 
entire nation bound by this quashing of free speech (and the 
contravention of SCOTUS cases cited by you, Greg, and others)? Is a 
person in violation of the law if his site is crawled by Google or 
similar spiders and they index the Forbidden Words?

Seen from a libertarian/BOR perspective, the answers are easy. Seen 
from an interventionist/speech banning perspective, the questions 
multiply and multiply. (As with experiments in filtering lists, 
reporting on the act of filtering itself becomes a violation, and 
reporting on _that_ issue becomes a violation, and the process 
cascades.)

I made sure to do a Web archive on the site. To see what we are 
discussing, here's the text version of this Banned Site:

(Apologies for the formatting--it's a wide document and no formatting 
into 75 or 80 columns would fix wrap problems anyway. No apologies 
that it now becomes part of the various archives of list traffic.)

--Tim

This is G o o g l e's cache of 
http://www.justicefiles.org/Kirkland/Kirkland%20SSN.asp.
G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we 
crawled the web.
The page may have changed since that time. Click here for the current 
page without highlighting.
Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor 
responsible for its content.
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City of Kirkland                        
Last First Middle I. SSN Date of Birth  Job Title Monthly Pay Home 
Phone Home City State Zip Email Addresses
Adair          (Court Records) Wayne A.     Patrol Master Police 
Officer $4,893.00            The Ring leader in a massive suit for 15 
minutes overtime.
Aksdal Todd M. 539-98-6802 Oct-74 Patrol Police Officer III $4,089.00 
10619 143rd Place  Bothell WA 98011  
Allen          (Court Records) Michael J.  532-04-9782   Patrol 
Police Officer I $4,661.00 (253) 845-4146 2003 5TH ST SW PUYALLUP WA 
98371-7439  
Amaya Maria H. 285-60-2032 Sep-73 Patrol Police Officer IV $3,870.00 
206-276-7110 PO Box 25342  Seattle WA 98125
Avery Scott H.     Starting Police Officer $3,425.00 425-576-0199 320 
- 2nd Ave S. Kirkland WA 98033
Balkema     (Court Records) Robert C. 279-58-1156 Mar-55 Police 
Support Officer $2,619.00 668-3595 18223 109th Ave se  Snohomish WA 
98296
Beath Brian B. 537-46-2392 Feb-47 Police Support Officer $2,619.00 
425-881-3568 14633 40th St NE Apt K8 Bellevue WA 98007  
Biladeau Dawn M.     Lead Communication Technician $3,431.00 
425-821-7059 13025 NE 137th Pl Kirkland WA 98034  
Blinsink Steven Harold 239-41-9528 Aug-70 Patrol Police Officer IV 
$3,870.00 425-553-4055 6515 134th Place #G3 Snohomish WA 98296  
Bohl Susan M.     Records Technician $2,427.00 (360) 613-5846 10132 
Stoli Ln NW Silverdale WA 98383
Bos Michael L.     Police Support Officer $2,619.00   3515 E Pine 
Needle    WA  
Bressler Raymond C.     Starting Police Officer $3,425.00          
Brewer Michael P. 538-46-3280 Dec-47 Patrol Police Officer I 
$4,661.00 425-823-9649 14235 75th NE  Bothell WA 98011  
Brouelette Elizabeth B.     Starting Patrol Police Officer $3,425.00 
 
Caito Vincent W.     Parking Enforcement Officer $2,331.00 
425-883-1859 18304 NE 92 Ct. Redmond WA 98052  
Caldwell Rex D. 533-72-1999 Mar-60 Senior Sergeant $5,172.00 
425-481-3085 PO Box 311  Kirkland WA 98083
Carroll Donald J. 567-06-9845   Master Police Officer $4,690.00 
425-821-5884 10616 116th St. NE  Kirkland WA 98034
Coleman Joanne M.     Records Technician $2,427.00 425-357-8943 3533 
- 122nd Pl SE Everett WA 98208
Coleman Ronald L. 536-68-6894 Apr-59 Master Police Officer $4,690.00 
425-788-9599 164119 315th Ave NE  Duvall WA 98019  
Collins Ginger Sue     Parking Enforcement Officer $2,331.00            
Corning Donald L. 365-24-4430 Nov-47 Master Police Officer $4,690.00 
425-821-4484 10716 44th Court NE Bothell WA 98011  
Crandall      (Court Records) David M.     Police Officer I 1 YR 
$4,468.00 206-286-0357 2433 - 1st Ave N Seattle WA 98109
Crickmore Mark T. 537-80-0929 Jun-64 Communications Technician 
$2,603.00 425-454-6974 7629 12th St. NE  Medina  WA 98039
De Aguiar Michael C. 576-70-9087 May-61 Patrol Police Officer I 
$4,661.00 425-672-8323 23826 31st Place  Brier  WA 98036
   Michael C. 576-70-9087 May-61     425-672-8323 3208 238th St. SW 
Brier  WA 98036  
Drain Debra D. 537-68-4943 Sep-57 Police Officer III 1 YR $3,919.00 
425-397-0366 9805 12th Place SE Everett WA 98205  
   Debra D. 537-68-4943 Sep-57     428-397-0366 PO Box 1889  Everett WA 98206
Edwards Gregory D. 422-74-8033 Sep-52 Police Lieutenant $4,557.00 
425-626-5978 6730 Twin Hills Dr. W Tacoma WA 98467
Eggleston Jr. Gary M.     Master Police Officer $4,690.00          
Evans Jr. Charles Fredrick     Patrol Police Officer IV $3,870.00 
425-745-5647 930 - 152nd Pl SW Lynnwood WA 98037  
Gallagher Patrick   pass pass Patrol Master Police Officer $4,893.00 
 
Gilmore      (Court Records) Bradley L. 576-98-3785 Apr-62 Second 
Class Sergeant 1 YR $5,022.00 425-820-3458 34523 32nd Court Federal 
Way WA 98023  
   Bradley L. 576-98-3785 Jan-62     425-820-3458 PO Box 8214 Kirkland WA 98034
Goguen      (Court Records) Philip G.  550-71-3960   Police Officer I 
1 YR $4,468.00  425-863-1543 16595 150th St SE Monroe WA 98272 View 
his numerous tax liens
   Philip G.         360-794-7186 10426 Friar Creek Road  Monroe WA 98272
   Goguen Karen       housewife 360-794-7186 10426 Friar Creek Road 
Monroe WA 98272  
Green         (Court Records) Pleas J. 539-40-0945 Feb-44 Police 
Chief $6,370.00   4812 119th Pl NE Kirkland WA 98033  
   Pleas J. 530-40-0945 Feb-44       2510 Summit View Ave Yakima  WA 98902  
Grossfeld Steven P. 113-46-2611 Jan-68 Patrol Police Officer III 
$4,089.00 425-216-0726 14212 52nd Pl SE Bellevue WA 98006
   Steven P. 113-46-2611 Jan-68     425-216-0726 590 Galer St. Apt 316 
Seattle WA 98109
Halgren       (Court Records) Donald T. 574-18-7470   Patrol Police 
Officer I $4,661.00 425-823-3074 10609 143rd St. NE Bothell WA 98011
   Donald T. 574-18-7470       425-823-3074 10815 115th Court Apt 203 
Kirkland WA 98033  
   Donald T. 574-18-7470       425-823-3074 PO Box 800 Carnation WA 98014  
Hamilton William J.     Second Class Patrol Sergeant $5,293.00 
425-778-8130 808 Driftwood Ln Edmonds WA 98020  
Halsip John S.     Master Police Officer $4,690.00          
Henderson Nita M. 531-50-3137 Jul-49 Police Services Admin 
Coordinator $2,339.00 425-820-6940 10422 229th St SE Woodinville  WA 
98072
   Nita M. 531-50-3137 Jul-49     425-820-6940 323 1st St.  Gold Bar  WA 98251
   Nita M. 531-50-3137 Jul-49     425-820-6940 13 Central Way PMB 74 
Kirkland WA 98033  
   Nita M. 531-50-3137 Jul-49     425-820-6940 14702 278th Ave Duvall WA 98019  
   Nita M. 531-50-3137 Jul-49     425-820-6940 9516 120th St NE #E-5 
Kirkland WA 98034  
   Nita M. 531-50-3137 Jul-49     425-820-6940 15417 223 Ave NE 
Woodinville  WA 98072
Howell Bruce W. 562-86-2016 May-52 Patrol Master Police Officer 
$4,893.00 425-827-9418 13101 110th Pl NE Kirkland WA 98033
Jones Richard J. 532-40-8447 Jun-43 Patrol Master Police Officer 
$4,893.00 425-778-7509 6006 - 232nd St. SW Mountlake Terrace WA 98043
Keesee Jr Jack E. 236-44-4198 Feb-31 Patrol Police Officer IV 
$3,870.00 425-355-4166 5513 West Dr. Everett WA 98203  
Keyes Kevin D. 130-56-6331 Feb-65 Patrol Police Officer III $4,089.00 
223 143rd St. N #B Seattle WA 98133  
   Kevin D. 130-56-6331 Feb-65       20210 105th Ave SE Kent WA 98031  
King Kourtnie M. 267-99-5677 Apr-68 Records Technician $2,427.00 
425-814-4907 7334 142nd Pl NE #A Bothell WA 98011
   Kourtnie M. 267-99-5677 Apr-68     425-814-4907 124 300th St. SW 
Federal Way WA 98023
Kissinger      (Court Records) James B. 539-56-0948 Feb-58 Patrol 
Police Officer I $4,661.00 425-548-7063 19809 130th Ave NE 
Woodinville  WA 98072
   James B. 539-56-0948 Feb-58     425-548-7063 9909 176th  #5 
Snohomish WA 98296  
   James B. 539-56-0948 Feb-58     425-548-7063 17418 88th Pl NE 
Redmond WA 98052  
   James B.           10022 127th Pl N Apt #C-213 Kirkland WA 98034  
   James B.         425-668-6857 PO Box 2354 Kirkland WA 98083
   James B.           23801 104th St SE Monroe WA 98272
Klomp Terry J. 533-90-5689 1965 Master Police Officer $4,690.00 
425-868-5701 3021 230th Pl NE  Redmond WA 98053
   Terry J. 533-90-5689 1965     425-868-5701 16524 37th St NE Apt 
#W-1069 Redmond WA 98052  
Knafla Troy L. 473-96-3793   Patrol Police Officer III $4,089.00 
425-574-0784 430 Union Ave Snohomish WA 98290  
   Troy L. 473-96-3793       425-574-0784 13219 113th Pl NE Kirkland WA 98034  
   Troy L. 473-96-3793       425-574-0784 31507 106th Pl SE Auburn WA 98092
Kovarik         (Court Records) Deborah D. 558-78-7804   Master 
Police Officer $4,690.00 425-827-6463 11057 - 111th Ave NE Kirkland 
WA 98033 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Krahn           (Court Records) Timothy S.     Patrol Police Officer 
II $4,377.00          
Krebs Richard A. 535-34-6716 Dec-37 Master Police Officer $4,690.00 
253-852-5663 10847 SE 218th St Kent WA 98031  
   Richard A. 538-80-6087 Apr-63     206-938-6806 3714 42nd Ave SW 
Seattle WA 98116  
   Richard A. 388-80-0870       206-938-6806 3714 42nd Ave SW  Seattle 
WA 98116  
Lackey Charles E. 519-52-8434 1947 Patrol Master Police Officer 
$4,893.00 425-820-9822 13440 90th Pl NE  Kirkland WA 98034
   Charles E. 519-52-8434 1947     425-820-9822 6129 99th Pl NE 
Marysville WA 98270
Larson Delacy A.     Communications Technician $2,603.00          
Lousberg      (Court Records) Donald E. 562-37-0255 Oct-60 Police 
Officer I 1 YR $4,468.00   301 Woodwind Pl  Sultan  WA 98294  
   Donald E. 562-37-0755 Oct-60     425-333-4003 28907 10th St NE 
Carnation WA 98014  
   Donald E. 545-65-7140       425-333-4003 28907 10th St NE 
Carnation WA 98014  
Malkowski Margaret M. 537-48-2148 Sep-47 Lead Records Technician 
$2,970.00 425-822-4850 12820 100th St NE Kirkland WA 98033
Markle         (Court Records) Gene M. 188-44-8681 Jan-54 Senior 
Patrol Sergeant $5,396.00 425-794-9088 16974 Wales St SE Monroe WA 
98272
   Gene M. 188-44-8681 Jan-54     425-794-9088 PO Box 293 Edmonds WA 98020
Marshall Stephen J. 574-58-3233   Police Officer I 1 YR $4,468.00 
PO Box 3343 Kirkland WA 98083  
McBride Janelle K. 538-96-6892 Oct-67 Patrol Police Officer IV 
$3,870.00 425-827-0180 14407 88th Ave NE  Bothell WA 98011  
   Janelle K. 538-96-6892 Oct-67     425-827-0180 810 2nd Ave # A-10 
Kirkland WA 98033  
   Janelle K. 538-96-6892 Oct-67     425-827-0180 808 2nd Ave #7-B 
Kirkland WA 98033
   Janelle K. 538-96-6892 Oct-67     425-670-1637 11052 33rd Place NE 
#8  Bellevue WA 98004
   Janelle K. 538-96-6892 Oct-67     425-670-1637 16220 29th St NE 
Bellevue WA 98008
   Janelle K. 538-96-6892 Oct-67     425-670-1637 15320 Mill Creek 
Blvd W #201 Bothell WA 98012  
McMullen Ruth A. 537-74-7835   Communications Technician $2,603.00 
123 5th Ave  Kirkland WA 98033  
   Ruth A. 537-74-7835         1045 Daniels Drive Tacoma WA 98466  
   Ruth A. 537-74-7835         PO Box 110820 Tacoma WA 98411
McNaughten Bryan P.     Police Lieutenant $4,557.00   PO Box 1204 
Duvall WA 98019
Murphy Kevin P. 567-47-8138 Jul-61 Patrol Police Officer II $4,377.00 
425-718-2783 13855 Crestview Circle Silverdale WA 98383
   Kevin P. 567-47-8138 Jul-61     425-718-2783 1675 Ridge Court Lane 
Silverdale WA 98383  
   Kevin P. 477-72-0694       425-522-2223 21214 151st St. NE 
Woodinville  WA 98072  
   Kevin P.           7201 26th Ave NE  Seattle WA 98115  
   Kevin P.           5203 38th Ave NE  Seattle WA 98105
Murray Michael J.     Police Officer I 1 YR $4,468.00 253-835-3590 
32719 - 17th Ave SW Federal Way WA 98023
Olsen Eric W. 541-13-3757 Apr-72 Police Lieutenant $4,557.00 
425-298-0484 13632 57th Dr. Everett WA 98208
   Eric W. 541-13-3757 Apr-72     425-298-0484 PO Box 6521  Silverdale 
WA 98315  
   Eric W. 541-33-7577         PO Box 6521  Silverdale WA 98315  
   Eric W. 535-78-9046         616 Prospect St N Tacoma WA 98406  
   Eric W. 536-58-6985 1954     206-783-6045 2944 Esplande St NW 
Seattle WA 98117
   Eric W. 536-58-6985 1954     206-783-6045 3254 Esplande St NW 
Seattle WA 98117
   Eric W. 541-13-3757 Apr-72       12726 120th St NE #K-2 Kirkland WA 98034
   Eric W. 541-33-7577         2250 Sidney Ave. #K-11 Port Orchard  WA 98366  
   Eric Walter 341-64-9778       425-794-9275 123 5th Ave  Kirkland WA 98033  
Oskierko       (Court Records) Steven J. 542-92-3036   Police Officer 
I 1 YR $4,468.00   24931 146th Pl SE  Monroe WA 98272  
   Steven J. 542-92-3036         11230 132nd Pl #101 Kirkland WA 98034
Parish Marilyn S.     Communications Technician $2,603.00          
Parmelee Michelle J. 514-70-1042 Sep-72 Communications Technician 
$2,603.00          
Pierce Charles L. 367-50-0313 Oct-51 Police Officer I 1 YR $4,468.00 
 
   Charles   563-39-1859                  
Pierce Donna J. 549-52-1077   Communications Technician $2,603.00            
   Donna   535-34-1700                
   Donna   539-90-1820 Sep-70              
Porter Bradly James 536-86-4239   Police Support Officer $2,619.00 
8210 Steilacoom Blvd  Lakewood   WA 98498 
Priszner Guy S. 570-23-4170 Nov-63 Communications Technician 
$2,603.00    P.O. Box1889 Everett WA   98206  
   Guy             7320 141st Pl NE #F-106 Bothell WA 98011  
Reali Benjamin C. 052-58-0401 Mar-62 Patrol Police Officer II 
$4,377.00 425-392-8170
  23123 Main Street East #3

  Redmond

  WA

  98026
   
Reali Elizabeth S. 571-35-7296 Mar-58 Admin Support Assoc $2,339.00 
 425-392-6941
23123 Main Street East #3 
   Redmond  WA  98026
Rich Nathan G. 532-08-2489 Mar-74 Patrol Police Officer IV $3,870.00 
425-788-0293  14241 94th Ave   Bothell WA  98011 
Riley              (Court Records) Sean T. 534-60-2267 Aug-62 Patrol 
Police Officer I $4,661.00 425-822-4086  12005 73rd St NE   Kirkland 
WA  98033 
   Sean   531-88-5608                  
Robertson Scott A.     Patrol Police Officer I $4,661.00   17343 
Mountain View Rd SE  Monroe WA   98272  
              WA    
   Scott   533-86-8902 Apr-65      425-794-0130 1583 3rd St   Kirkland 
WA   98033
   Scott   546-84-6063 Jul-57      425-481-0411  14711 70th Crt NE 
 Bothell WA   98028
   Scott   541-82-6687 Jun-63      253-874-9834  37633 42nd Ave S 
 Auburn WA  98001
   Scott   536-94-8926          25653 45th S  Kent  WA  98032  
   Scott   533-86-8902 Apr-65        17343 Mtn Vw Rd SE Apt 5-E 
 Monroe  WA  98272  
   Scott   553-71-2692 Oct-69

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Timothy C. May         [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Corralitos, California
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