On 2 Jun 2001, at 21:08, John Young wrote:

> What
> I found intriguing was the new firewall transgression feature.
> Whether this feasible and what could be done to prevent 
> firewall spoofing if it is feasible.

I wondered about that myself, and I think the claim is bogus.  I run 
ZoneAlarm on all my MICRO~1 boxen.  It shows itself as an icon in 
the system tray, which is a tricky piece of screen real estate.  
Apps can place icons in the tray, but the app has no control over 
the positioning within the tray.  New icons _always_ show up on 
the far right end.  

Now, icons are process-bound.  If a process is killed, its icon will 
remain in the tray, inactive.  But mousing over it will cause it to 
disappear.  I'm pretty sure it's not possible to subsume another 
process' tray icon (though I'll be doing some experimentation, 
now...). So even if DIRT were to "replace" the ZoneAlarm tray icon, 
it would at least jump to the right. One would have to be Pretty 
Damn Clueless not to notice that, unless ZoneAlarm were the last 
app to place an icon in the tray.  In my experience, ZA is rarely the 
last icon in the tray initially.  If, like me, a user runs something like 
SIT (which shows Internet Time) and routinely resets its position to 
far right, ZA will never be the last icon.

On that basis alone, I think I have to call "bullshit" on the firewall 
transgression claims.

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