You've got two Germans mixed up. The one you're referring to is
LaSalle. Marx was the guy with the "Workers of the world, Unite!"
shtick and the rap about how the main significance of unions wasn't
that they could win a lot of concessions from the capitalists but that
through them the workers could learn to organize and fight.
Jos�
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H-m-m-m-m-m, well, yes, it does seem that at least one of us is taking
Marx out of context here. I specifically recall Marx saying that
although it could not provide by itself the resolution of the class
struggle that capitalism creates for workers, that collective
organization of labor could serve as a temporary brake on the the
process of ultimate pauperization of the proletariat, and therefore
needed to be understood as a self-defensive reflex of the workers. He
was also a champion of keeping the standard of living of the working
class as high as possible in the interim, since a totally pauperized
working class tends to be a totally demoralized one. Perhaps "bon
moun" would like to correct my recollection here, or introduce some
Marx of his own to refute it, (or keep his peace).
Peace,
Ken
>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:42:37 -0400
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: bon moun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>At 04:29 PM 7/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>Ken, you state the case succintly..... immigrants must be stopped
from
>>arriving, otherwise all us US workers are going straight to Hell.
And
>>you quote the Book of Marx to do it!
>
>
>Of course, it's important to point out that Ken took Marx completely
out of
>context to state a bastardized version of the very economism that
Marx,
>Engels, Lenin, etc, denounced as incomplete consciousness combined
with
>opportunism. Communism is not a trade union.
>
>
>
>"If insurrection is an art, its main content is to know how to give
the
>struggle the form appropriate to the political situation."
>
> -Vo Nguyen Giap
>
>
>
>"Rather than seeking comparabilities in statistical terms among what
are
>all too often superficial features of different situations,
comparabilities
>must be sought at the level of determinate mechanisms, at the level
of
>processes that are generally hidden from easy view."
>
> -Eleanor Burke Leacock
>
>
>
>"Every day one has to struggle that this love to a living humanity
>transform itself into concrete acts, in acts that serve as examples,
as
>motivation."
>
> -Ernesto "Che" Guevara
>
>
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