>>> "bon moun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/11 2:58 PM >>>
>>The other point that needs to be made here--as the
discussion begins to
drift--is how this highly sectarian bit of trotskyism was
inserted.  

Oh man! I am much, much more sectarian than that. In an
earlier post that you missed I described Trotskyism as just
dissident Stalinism. But to answer the main point: it was
inserted by me sticking it in.

Lenin
refered to state capitalism as a stage in the construction
of socialism
under specific historical circumstances  

Yes and you're still trying to recycle that one.
"Construction of socialism" out of state capitalism is one
of those highly plausible notions (at first glance) that
turns out to be utterly wrong.

but the bit about bureaucrats
becoming a class (an indefensible distortion of the marxian
concept of
class) 

How so?

CSC has become shorthand for a very
flaky premise upon which an essentially
counter-revolutionary argument is
constructed.  

No SC itself is the counter-revolution and it began with
"Leftwing Communism: an Infantile Disorder" which laid the
first foundation of an essentially nationalistic Russian
state capitalism becoming confused with socialism. The only
way to ever make good on that is to start over. By the way,
do you know where Lenin learned this "marxism" from?

Tahir

                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                               

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