Ken Julien and Tom, I have some single word responses... SUSTAINABILITY, 
HOLISTIC and with the awareness of ECOLOGICAL, much of which was not in
our consciousness even in the past, much has to be re-thought, not
necessairluy re-chewed.
If something worked for a while, or cannot contiue to work,  it is not
sustainable and I believe this is key for this millenium. If it only
worked for awhile it was disabling until it collapsed, because the system
used non renewable resources or used up human capital.

Note: However I am hoping the Mondragon people are becoming more: aware
conscious and green, or THEY will not be sustainable  ecologically.
Everything being inter connected and related one has to look at
preventions for potential Crashes HOLISTICALLY right? 

We are not speaking of automobiles, that  one might keep them  on the
road with constant good maintenance, or work at keeping them on the road
as vintage models, elegant interesting or fun, even fair transport! But
self sustaining? jo* 


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