En relaci�n a [CrashList] FW: Silviu Brucan: The Hard-Earned In,
el 15 Aug 00, a las 15:14, Mark Jones dijo:
> Nestor Miguel dijo:
First of all, you call me N�stor, Mark! I sign with my full two
names, but that's just to make the difference with the thousands of
N�stor Gorojovskys who roam around the planet. Your Spanish is
improving, BTW. Now, back to what I said:
> >
> > there is no way that a socialist
> > society exists but with a strong industrial backbone. Among other
> > reasons, because of the social and psychological consequences of an
> > industrial economy, which have to do with the definition of self
> > that each individual member of the formation can generate.
>
> You seem to assume we have a choice. I don't think we do. At the
> moment each American sits literally and metaphorically atop a pile of
> 50 + tonnes of steel and 400+ tonnes of concrete embedded in the built
> environment, railways, roads, etc. In the next 40 years there may be
> 3bn more humans. To give them even today's built environment will
> require a lot of resources: 150 bn tonnes of steel for starters. That
> is 30 complete new USA's. Do you think we can do that, under ANY
> colour of flag? What will happen to the climate if we even try? Where
> will the primary energy come from? The agricultural land? The water?
> And this is just the new kids on the block: I'm not even talking about
> 4bn people who already exist and do not enjoy US/Euro standards.
>
Your posting is compelling. As you say below, as a statistician by
trade [though, sigh, a statesman by vocation ;(] I know the figures.
So that I will not reply in detail. Just a single question: is the
American model of industrialization the only one available? Can't
throw the baby with the soapsuds. It is not the matter of the flag
that waves atop the masts. In the end, it is a matter of considering
the best spatial allocation of industrial activity around the world.
That's all.
I don't have any interest whatsoever to become another bolt of the
American dream, just to be screwed in it. I don't buy that. I prefer
a much different path. But this path does not mean to keep industries
where they already are (I would say that they are overconcentrated
there). That's all.
N�stor Miguel Gorojovsky
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