I am tired of coping with the current volume and I will unsub in a few minutes. An
obvious solution would be to learn to hit delete more quickly, but for some
reason I can't resolve myself to do it. Sorry to be such a sad pal. But if
something particularly interesting is going on, any of you can of course call me
back.
Thanks to all of you who posted with restraint and/or who posted interesting
stuff, which of course means many of you. Maybe I'll come back sometime, for
example to tell you folks about the Guy Bois book on the big crisis during the
middle-age.
Aaron - I'm currently looking at that participatory economics thing.
Ken - If you're still interested to my take on worker-control, please mail me. I
started to research and re-think a bit about that stuff and I stopped because of
lack of time. I could resume now.
Mark - I guess you won't read that, but my best wishes are with you!
Tahir - Now that I'll have more time... If you've got a reference to a good and
short summary on Bordiga, his ideas and works (particularily about agric.
revolution), please forward it to my email address.
Tom - I'd be glad if you forward me the news about Mark's health in the future.
You're free to forget to do it, but NOT to refuse.
As a closing word, here's a little rant of mine on education & society:
>... WHY the system is
>on a downward path everywhere. You're right it is an
>economic explanation. Education for young gentlemen was
>worth spending a bit one - it was an investment in the
>future for the ruling class. Investment by the state in mass
>education though is something quite different - it surely is
>an attempt, as always, to get a docile labour force at the
>cheapest possible price.
Tahir, this is again caricatural. There was a time when economics was
understood more like it should be than now: as a tool, not as a goal in itself.
This kind of economical reasoning is something quite new (sorry Althusser &
co.). There were more important things than that. So, sorry to sound like an old
conservative, but there is a problem with values in many of today's societies.
We are obsessed by competitivity and stuff like that. We obey all of capital's
demented wishes. So, more than futurology (the record of futurology is quite
bad, don't you think so?) and discussions of finer points of history (even if they
relate to an important theory ;-), in the here and now we need shared values
and dedicated leadership. And, yes, we can contribute to that (offline). We can
forget our ego and stand together with rebels a bit different than us. On other
issues we can go along simply beign against something... On education and
other issues we need to be actually for something. But IMO that will have to
wait until people are less afraid for the economic future of their kids, and yes
this means labour laws, unions, taxes on capital and big incomes, etc. For as
strange as it may sound to some, schools are not ruled by big capital but by
ordinary people (at least it was so where I've been). They are the ones
pushing for adaptation to capital's desires and they are the ones afraid of
school budgets sucking theirs to pay for well-off dumb teachers.
Disclaimer: I don't think that education was that good in the past. It sucked. I'm
with Pink Floyd here. We need new values, not the old bourgeois ones about
knowing how to talk about "great" litterature. And what we don't need is more
moralistic indoctrination of the kids as Georges would want it. I've had civics
classes, and I wish the same to no kid.
Secondary disclaimer: Georges has some good ideas on education.
Confortably positioning myself to read the last issue of NetFuture,
Julien
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