Mark made another important point in his post of 14 Sept (S11) which I
wanted to come back to. (The intensity of Mark's posts and the quality
of
his information makes it difficult to keep up, but the problems of the
global economy will not go away anyway, so here goes.)

I accept the broad case Mark argues, for example in his persuasive
piece "A
New Energy Crisis" of 13th Sept. Also the Crash List has been pursuing
this
theme, and among other things I have picked up from there, I agree the
arguments first presented by Hubbert, and now called the Hubbert
Curve,
about the peak of oil production.

www.hubbertpeak.com

However the point I wanted to come back to seems to be not quite right
from
a marxist point of view, or if it is right, it raises some interesting
questions about how to apply the marxist theory of crises to the
present
phenomena.

Mark wrote:

>to anyone who's done their
>homework this cannot hide the fact that (since 1973 at least)
>energy-shortages have been behind economic cycles, have
>led to the collapse of the Soviet Union and to
>3 mideast wars, and are now resulting in the Fourth and Final Oil
Shock

Now the marxist theory of capitalist crises, as I understand it,
describes
the endless tendency for surplus value to accumulate more surplus
value, to
the business cycle accelerating until it reaches its rate- limiting
step in
the

contradiction between capitalist accumulation and the limited
purchasing
power of the masses of working people.

There are sub-phases to this as stocks of overproduced commodities
accumulate, which usually first trigger a financial crisis, before a
general economic crisis ensues, with the destruction of a significant
amount of capital, living and dead.

This theory of crises depends on exploitation of labour power. Marx
recognises exploitation of resources too, but his theory of capitalist
crises is not dependent on them.

Mark's point above is compelling enough in that a short supply of a
basic
commodity like oil may imperil the profitability of certain sectors of
the
economy short of a general economic crisis of capitalism. But it would
be
theoretically risky to substitute important ecological arguments for
the
marxian theory of crises.

That theory is independent of what technology is used by capitalism.
Indeed
it presumes constant revolutionising of the means of production under
capitalism.

  Mark is persuasive about the arguments that the human race is coming
up
against the finite limits of extractable oil.  But that does not
necessarily unfortunately mean the end of capitalism.

Capitalism wobble as a result. But if you don't push it, it won't
fall.


Chris Burford

[forwarded from Thaxis, which I had to unsub from because of pressure
of work. I'll try to respond. Mark]


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