At 03:41 PM 27/09/00 -0600, Perry  Arnett wrote: in response to Mark Jones' 
: " It is wishful thinking to suppose that you  can persuade those with 
power over you to do anything which runs  against their immediate 
self-interest or which imperils their social  position. They will not do 
it."... and :" All the rainforest that can be hewn down, will be. All the 
fossil that can be burnt, will be. All the aquifers that can be pumped dry, 
will be. All the biomes that can be plundered, will be. No efforts will be 
made to reverse greenhouse emissions, on the contrary, they will 
accelerate. Billions of innocent people are walking around today, 
not  knowing that their death certificates have already been made 
out.  Start from this."
"..powerful stuff!  thanks; folks:  if the shoe fits, wear it...   "

My comment: We know that at current rate and in current system with current 
players playing by current "rules", this is it. Then, what? What do you 
propose to do? How? when? where? with whom? with what means? how directly? 
Where do you start?


Best

Yves Bajard




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