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Asunto: Re: [CrashList] Engels'
ecological consciousness/ Cunning asunity
of
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>At 09:25 16/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>Marxist
ecological consciousness precedes the modern ecological
movement.
>>See the following excerpt from "The Part Played By Labour
in the
>>Transition from Ape to Man" by Frederick Engels. Since
human production
>>is always part of the context of Engels' thought,
this passage also
>>demonstrates that our discussions of use-value
and exchange-value are
>>relevant to ecology, contra complaints from
some on this list.
>>
>>Charles
Brown
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>It's a fine
passage.
>
>According the footnotes in my copy, the crash he
refers to was in Germany
>in May 1873 and lasted well into the late
70's. This may be of interest to
>Mark re the title of this
list.
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>CharlesB: Interesting ,
Chris.
>
>Another thought that has been bouncing around in my head
on the issue of
value and ecology is that Marx's _Capital_ is descriptive
of the state of
things under capitalism. It should be obvious to everyone
that Marx was not
proposing by writing _Capital_ that the production of
exchange-value or
value and surplus-value should continue as the modus
operandi of human
society. Though Marx's description of capitalism,
unlike those of bourgeois
political economists or vulgar economists, gives
the most favorable
interpretation of the role of the working class in the
process, Marx's whole
life project was to overthrow the order he describes
in _Capital_. In
general, he advocates a revolution in the mode of
production such that
production would be guided by use-value and the
qualitative needs and wants
of people, and not guided by the accumulation
of capital and the production
of surplus-value and
exchange-value.
>
>Thus, somewhat self-critically, we Marxists in
discussing value in terms of
use-value and exchange-value should note that
we do not see the dynamics of
exchange-value as continuing after world
socialist revolution succeeds and
predominates. So, the concept of
exchange-value is not included in the
Marxist analysis of ecological
revolution.
>
>Of course, use-value is still oriented to a
humanist or anthropocentric
conception , so that issue remains in
dispute.
>
>Furthermore, the Marxist conception somewhat
correlated to the conception
of ecologists who have biocentric orientation
is CUNNING as discussed by
Marx in the following:
>
>
>An
instrument of labour is a thing, or a complex of things, which the
labourer
interposes between himself and the subject of his labour, and which
serves
as the conductor of his activity. He makes use of the mechanical,
physical,
and chemical properties of some substances in order to make
other
substances subservient to his aims. [2]
>
>footnote: [2]
"Reason is just as cunning as she is powerful. Her cunning
consists
principally in her mediating activity, which, by causing objects to
act and
re-act on each other in accordance with their own nature, in this
way,
without any direct interference in the process, carries out
reason's
intentions." (Hegel: "Enzyklop�die, Erster Theil, Die Logik,"
Berlin, 1840,
p. 382.)
>
>(from
>Capital Volume
One
>Part III:
>The Production of Absolute
Surplus-Value
>CHAPTER SEVEN:
>THE LABOUR-PROCESS AND THE PROCESS
OF PRODUCING SURPLUS-VALUE )
>
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>CB:
Ironically, this occurs in a discussion of instruments or tools.
Yet,
cunning is passive instrumentality . Thus, it implies a certain unity
of
biocentrality and anthropocentraly. The passage from Hegel reminds
of Hegel
and Engels other famous aphorism regarding freedom as the mastery
of
necessity. Cunning "masters" necessity , and necessity is nature,
by
yielding intelligently to
nature.
>
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