At 10:33 17/10/00 -0400, Charles wrote:

>Another thought that has been bouncing around in my head on the issue of 
>value and ecology is that Marx's _Capital_ is descriptive of the state of 
>things under capitalism. It should be obvious to everyone that Marx was 
>not proposing by writing _Capital_ that the production of exchange-value 
>or value and surplus-value should continue as the modus operandi of human 
>society.

Yes, although it is implicit rather than prominent in his work his approach 
implies that the capitalist mode of production is only a subset of a larger 
pciture which requires a sort of meta-analysis - the different economic 
modes of production which contribute to the total social product of the 
society and the extent to which they are managed with social foresight.



>the concept of exchange-value is not included in the Marxist analysis of 
>ecological revolution.

It should be. It is about human energy.(Labour power). An overall balance 
of energy and resources on this planet cannot be made without consciously 
analysing what comes from human energy, and what from other forms of 
energy. And how the capitalist mode of production violently eats into all 
pre-existing modes of production.

Chris Burford

London


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