At 12:02 22/10/00 -0400, you wrote:

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>The main overall point I was making is that we can and should locate Marx's
>analysis of the economies of exchange value within the overall larger set
>of economies of social products of labour, which constitute the social life
>process. All these are economies of the expenditure of human energy, which
>equilibrate around the total amount of human energy available to expend.
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>CB: I am not sure if I follow you here. Social labor or social production 
>is universal in human society. Stone age economies had social products of 
>labor.


Yes I meant that.

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>There is also the economy of non-human energy. And the economy of natural
>raw materials. Especially the finite nature of the latter is becoming
>important.
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>CB: Yes, that is what this list seems to be about.


It seems so.

A sudden shortage of a raw material can indeed disrupt the circulation of 
exchange but that is not necessarily the same as a crisis of capitalist 
accumulation.

That is why I am asking for clarity about

the economy of human energy, in particular that of exchange value,
the economy of non-human energy,
and the economy of other raw materials;

how they interrelate and how they are essentially separate processes.

Chris Burford
London


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