Karl S North wrote:

>
> but Foster makes clear to me that Marx knew and described man's relation
> to nature as unsustainable well before the rise of capitalism. Thus the
> early biocentrism the Boyes mentions is only relative and is not based on
> a biocentric consciousness but simply on early man's technological
> weakness and inability to do much damage.

Early "man"? Is only half the human species involved in this. I assure you that
no ecological movement is going to go anyplace (nor is any other mass movement)
unless participants in it can get rid of the mindset (and the behavior) which
consists in seeing only males as human.

Carrol



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