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In a message dated 12/18/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but a Ben Chavis conversion is not a good thing. It was a movement
along the path of his steady retrogression. A Ben Chavis conversion for
numbers of African Americans would mark a reactionary and further isolating
turn, making forms of genocide more powerful even than they are now.
Mosley - Mr. Woodford, would you be kind enough to explain why or how a Ben
Chavis conversion for numbers of African Americans would make forms of
genocide more powerful? Is it naivete or malice that impel you to qualify
his conversion as retrogressive, reactionary and further isolating? I found
the Agenda of the Million Family March of the Nation of Islam very compatible
with the platform of the Association of State Green Parties (ASGP), are you
also going to classify the Greens as retrogressive, reactionary and
isolating? I await your response with bated breath, Mr.Woodford.
Mosley - Regarding the post below that sparked your response, I wonder if
"bon moun" is a "spin-meister"
for the Democrats. The analysis is clever but
the conclusions are suspect. It appears to be an adaptation of the scare
tactics employed by the Gore campaign. Instead of encouraging the exodus
from the Democratic Party that has treated African Americans so poorly,
bring out the "bogey-man" the "proto-fascist faction of the Republican
Party." Well Democrats, I have in mind the creation of a bigger
"bogey-man" ---- a progressive coalition led by the Green Party and the
Nation of Islam. Peace.
bon moun wrote:
> Black voters' loyalty to the democrats has not been out of fierce loyalty
> anyway, but out of pragmatism. I think there's a good chance that the
dems
> insistence on "reconciliation", a clear bit of bourgeois damage control
(as
> opposed to partisan damage control), and the Reno Justice Dept's
> chicken-shit response to voting rights violations, will give lots of black
> voters pause, and for many will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
> The streets are calling. Unfortunately, the left is still a small and
> heterogeneous mob in the US, and the black left has been reluctantly
> spending a lot of its political capital trying to work with white
> progressives--and neglecting poor black communities. This is where the
> real anger is growing, and in the absence of a clearly articualted black
> progressive alternative, many have been and will continue to turn to
> nationalism--not a bad thing in itself, but very reactionary in the form
of
> the NOI. I think we can expect thousands of Ben Chavis conversions. And
> this will spell the beginning of the end for the democratic party. If the
> Republicans can hold their coaltion together, this will strengthen them
> immeasurably, which also strengthens their proto-fascist faction as an
> influence group. All in all, a very depressing scenario.
>
> "I am not a Marxist."
>
> -Karl Marx
>
> "Mask no difficulties."
>
> -Amilcar Cabral
>
> "Am I to be cursed forever with becoming
> somebody else on the way to myself?
>
> -Audre Lorde
>
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Yes, but a Ben Chavis conversion is not a good thing. It was a movement along the path of his steady retrogression. A Ben Chavis conversion for numbers of African Americans would mark a reactionary and further isolating turn, making forms of genocide more powerful even than they are now. bon moun wrote: > Black voters' loyalty to the democrats has not been out of fierce loyalty > anyway, but out of pragmatism. I think there's a good chance that the dems > insistence on "reconciliation", a clear bit of bourgeois damage control (as > opposed to partisan damage control), and the Reno Justice Dept's > chicken-shit response to voting rights violations, will give lots of black > voters pause, and for many will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. > The streets are calling. Unfortunately, the left is still a small and > heterogeneous mob in the US, and the black left has been reluctantly > spending a lot of its political capital trying to work with white > progressives--and neglecting poor black communities. This is where the > real anger is growing, and in the absence of a clearly articualted black > progressive alternative, many have been and will continue to turn to > nationalism--not a bad thing in itself, but very reactionary in the form of > the NOI. I think we can expect thousands of Ben Chavis conversions. And > this will spell the beginning of the end for the democratic party. If the > Republicans can hold their coaltion together, this will strengthen them > immeasurably, which also strengthens their proto-fascist faction as an > influence group. All in all, a very depressing scenario. > > "I am not a Marxist." > > -Karl Marx > > "Mask no difficulties." > > -Amilcar Cabral > > "Am I to be cursed forever with becoming > somebody else on the way to myself? > > -Audre Lorde > > _______________________________________________ > Crashlist resources: http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base > To change your options or unsubscribe go to: > http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/crashlist _______________________________________________ Crashlist resources: http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/crashlist
