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In saying what he did about intellectuals bringing socialist consciousness to the 
working masses, Lenin did not claim to be stating anything but the obvious, and he 
didn't claim to originate the idea. 

The significance of this point though is precisely what is getting lost here. If this 
point is correct then it has really not that much to do with Leninism, does it? It 
would be interesting to know what people DO regard as the essence of Leninism, if 
indeed such a thing exists. I think that, while Lenin's thinking on the party 
(together with his notions of strategy and tactics) is distinctive, his thinking on 
questions of democracy, nationalism, imperialism and the state might be more pertinent 
to an appraisal of his contribution. But I agree that the idea of revolutionary 
consiousness deriving from the study of marxism is not as remarkable as is sometimes 
made out. The question of science and scientism is somewhat more tricky: the 
philosophy of science has come a long way in the 20th century and the very idea of 
social science, where this is seen as something that is simply objective, does of 
course have its dangers.


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CB: I think right from Marx's description of his treatment of political economy LIKE a 
natural science ( and in other descriptions of method by Marx and Engels) we see that 
Marxism recognizes that social science is a contradiction of an approach like that of 
biology, etc. and an approach to human subjectivities and ideologies. See Engels' 
letter to Bloch, etc.


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