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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [CrashList] Re: The New Historical Materialism .... Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:13:01 -0800 From: Embarkadero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_j6aBqZ7jb8u1aIxM5jz+Rg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable contains this foolishness: "As the historical examples discussed above amply demonstrate, economic = ascent and, more broadly, the process of capital accumulation have entailed a continually = expanding process of the depredation of nature. However, this seemingly = obvious conclusion drastically underestimates the powerful incentives = for innovation and adaptation in the capitalist world-economy and the fungibility of the relationship between society and nature." 1) We now have a powerful incentive to adapt to CO2 breathing. All who = believe we can, raise your hands. 2) Once again good ol' technological innovation will save us! It always = has, it always will. Yayyyyyyyy! Chernobyls in the Arctic, hydrodams in Africa. "relocating the = environmental costs and consequences of core capital accumulation to = these remote peripheries." Yet ....I missed the part where the costs and = consequences of global warming can be relocated to poor ol' Africa. I = missed the part where "consequences" were either recognized or brought = under control of capitalism.=20 3) "fungibility" of the relationship between society and nature? Did = anyone but me miss the proof of this?=20 Who is "drastically underestimating" what, here? The "relationship betweenf society and nature" is reduced to more = efficient raw materials extraction in every example. Why? ... because = .... These guys don't GET it. I'll stick with Youngquist, please, Mark. Tom --Boundary_(ID_j6aBqZ7jb8u1aIxM5jz+Rg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable  contains this foolishness: "As the historical examples discussed = above amply=20 demonstrate, economic ascent and, more
broadly, the process of = capital=20 accumulation have entailed a continually expanding process of the = depredation of=20 nature. However, this seemingly obvious conclusion drastically = underestimates=20 the powerful incentives for innovation and adaptation in the capitalist=20 world-economy and the
fungibility of the relationship between society = and=20 nature." 1) We now have a powerful = incentive to adapt=20 to CO2 breathing. All who believe we can, raise your hands. 2) Once again good ol' technological = innovation=20 will save us! It always has, it always will. Yayyyyyyyy!    Chernobyls in the = Arctic,=20 hydrodams in Africa. "relocating the=20 environmental costs and consequences of core capital accumulation to = these=20 remote peripheries." Yet ....I missed the part where the costs and = consequences=20 of global warming can be relocated to poor ol' Africa.  I missed = the part=20 where "consequences" were either recognized or brought under control of=20 capitalism.

3) "fungibility" = of the=20 relationship between society and nature?  Did anyone but me miss = the proof=20 of this? Who is "drastically underestimating" = what,=20 here? The "relationship betweenf society and = nature" is=20 reduced to more efficient raw materials extraction in every example. = Why? ...=20 because .... These guys don't GET=20 it. I'll stick with Youngquist, please,=20 Mark. Tom--Boundary_(ID_j6aBqZ7jb8u1aIxM5jz+Rg)--

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