This is much better. You're back. Unsubbing and resubbing people is boring and a hassle. I'd like to not have to do it. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Abdo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 March 2001 23:05 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: :The Sinking of the Ehime Maru: Not An Accident > > > Well, Mark has said that what I wrote was a pure flame, and unsubbed me > from CrashList. And I think that he was right in what he says. > > My intention is not to discredit Jared and Emperor's Clothes, though. > I think that Jared does that to himself, by the type of commentary that > this was just one example of. > > <Since there were so many "foreseeably" harmful consequences, his action > involved harassment. > Therefore this was not an accident. Period. The fact that I do not > pretend to be sure what happened inside the sub - how could I be sure? - > does not mean it is wrong to be definite on this one question: this was > a criminal act, not an accident.> > > Yes, I certainly agree here with you, Jared. Criminal negligence is > a crime. However, criminal negligence is not murder- first degree. > The whole commentary seemed to ramble into a series of conjectures, that > then implied that in fact, there was a deliberate plot to kill. The > evidence is just not available to us with sufficient clarity, to make > these types of leaps in logic and accusation. > > What is most probable, is that it was just another in a large and > growing number of callous usage of military hardware, played with as a > toy. This is definitely a crime, in and of itself. > > As to the question of whether I hate and want to discredit Emperors > Clothes, or Jared himself.......? This simply is not true Jared. > I, and countless others also, want to be your biggest fan. There is > a tremendous need for a site like Emperors Clothes to be much bigger, > and more comprehensive. > > What keeps us from being able to throw ourselves into open and > unconditional support, is the type of one dimensional commentary that > leads us into exposed areas of borderline paranoia, such as that which > was put forth in the article about this incident. It is like that > Emperors Clothes wants to emphatically march us off into ambushes, and > then screams at us shrilly when we are relunctant to follow, marching > double time. > > Ultimately, it is you Jared, that has to decide if you want to continue > seeing 'enemies' everywhere (such as I), when in fact we are your most > potential allies in the struggles you consider important. > > Let me make the last thing I write here, apologizing for the flame. > It's true that I made my point, but it was done in a personalized manner > as Mark has pointed out. For that, I am sorry, Jared. > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ CrashList website: http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base
