"This message has been sent to CrashList more than three days ago, and it has not appeared on the list. I guess that if it still doesn't appear I should send it elsewhere so it can be read." > > Jared Israel reminds me of Arthur Koestler's famous description of a > typical Stalinist commissar in the USSR in the 1930s, as someone who is 'part > gangster, part gramophone' â�¦His Masterâ�¦Milosevic, who combines self-pity > with political gangsterism in equal measure, now has a record of almost > absolute political failure. The above is as false as a line from Reuter's but it also contains a vein of vicious attack on Israel which, since I share most of his ideas on the Yugoslav drama, extends to me somehow. Calling Milosevic a gangster and self-pitying, and Jared a mixture of gangster and gramophone is, IMHO, simply a stupid gutter lie worthy of CNN at their worst. I spent time talking with Mr. Milosevic and he has not the least amount of self pity, and has great clarity about imperialism. As to Jared in particular, I would add that I would honestly like to have hundreds of gramophones with so great a sense of political integrity, of honesty to the people, of love for truth, and of personal boldness. His service to the cause of Yugoslavs, and thus to all the oppressed peoples in the world, is outstanding. What would be known all over the world about Yugoslavia without his www.tenc.net? I wish Argentineans had had a single www.tenc.net in 1945 and in 1955, when the CNNs of those times roared that we were the Nazis of South America! And let me put this clear, too: I agree with most that he posts in that Emperors Clothes web site(one of the most exemplary ways to use the Net for a good cause, in fact: it is due to pages such as those that the powerful ones are trying to smother free speech on the Net), but I would still believe the above on Jared Israel even _if_ I did not agree so much. Everyone here knows that I am careful with personal attacks in my postings, and this is not a matter of personal softness. It is a matter of political seriousness. Slandering, insulting and debased language, as Mark Jones is now using to discredit Jared Israel and President Milosevic, are not a tradition of great revolutionaries but one that betrays the final belief that insult is "good proletarian practice", thus keeping working class people far away from the weapons of reasoned discourse and critical thought. Thus, it is one of the worst trends among our movement, a trend that we should always avoid. This I would call the worst kind of Stalinist bureaucratic debasement of human speech abilities. And I am afraid Mark has fallen into that, much to my grief and to his shame. I honestly wish that he gets out of that pitfall as soon as possible. ------- End of forwarded message ------- Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ CrashList website: http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base
