I just realise again that the Create Mailing List doen’t show into the cc list and thus I have to resend this post. Sorry for the bother guys.
Can someone fix this, please? Louis Louis Desjardins a écrit : > Alastair M. Robinson a écrit : >> Hi :) >> >> Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> >>> Well, one of the users came up with a very smart idea: a (Corel >>> Painter-like) tool to simulate real paper and inks to see what >>> actually would happen to glyphs printed with a small font size with >>> different inks on different surfaces and with different colors, taking >>> trapping into consideration as well, especially on problematic parts >>> of shapes (narrow serifs, stroke variation etc., I fancy). A >>> font-proof, in fact. So a type designer could see this and apply >>> tweaks to his design. >> >> Hmmmm - very interesting idea. There are a huge number of variables >> to take into account, though. > > Exactly. > > Let’s not turn this into something unusable. (Such as the paper formats > in Scribus.) A huge list of whatever-can-be-the-printed-media is going > to be completely useless. Please. Let’s not do that. Even if it’s so > temptating again to let the whole world WE KNOW BETTER. We don’t. > > And who cares anyway? > > Really. > > Let’s give a mean to users so they can set the background to whatever > they wish in order to simulate the printing media. That is ok. (And btw, > this is completely into the scope of color management). Let’s give some > useful hints. But let’s not ask paper makers of the world to provide us > with color info of their papers. We are never going to get out of this. > The list is going to be endless and as useless as one can think a > useless thing can be. Even if we can edit the list. Nobody but newbies > are going to use this list and in the end it will be of no help to > anybody. In this particular case, it is better to understand what’s > going on than provide tools nobody will ever use. > > This will be my only post on that subject. I am not ready at all to > discuss this further as I find it is leading us absolutely nowhere. > > Louis >> >> I see several aspects to this, though there may well be others that >> I've missed. >> >> 1. Simulating paper colour - easy enough given colour profiles for >> media and monitor. >> >> 2. Simulating the effect of media texture. This is where the effects >> used by natural media painting programs are relevant - though I >> suspect they're more of an artistic effect than rigorous simulation. >> >> 2, Simulating the distortion caused by compromises in printing >> technology - i.e. such as, (a) how easily do the enclosure in an "e" >> fill in as ink spreads on uncoated paper, (b) how easily do strokes >> start to disappear if you attempt to reverse them out of solid black >> or (God forbid!) a composite colour, (c) how does the halftone screen >> interact with character shapes at small sizes when various colours are >> chosen. >> >>> 1. Is anybody else thinking that it's a good idea? >> >> Defintely >> >>> 5. Is anybody volunteering? :) >> >> Sadly, I no longer have enough time to make good progress on my >> existing projects, so I can't take on anything else at the moment. >> Interesting ideas though, and I hope someone will be able to do >> something with it. >> >> All the best, >> -- >> Alastair M. Robinson >> _______________________________________________ >> CREATE mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create >> > > -- Louis Desjardins Mardigrafe inc. Graphisme et impression écologique T 514 934 1353 F 514 934 3698 www.mardigrafe.com _______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
