Thanks all suggestions about this idea, thank you everyone! i try my best get visa to Belgium these days in China, wish i can get visa and see friends,then interview face to face. regards! Wang Lingzheng
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Re: off topic: decentralised social networking (Jon Phillips) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:30:56 -0700 > From: Jon Phillips <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting > To: Mario Behling <[email protected]> > Cc: florica <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book. > Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings > > Are they proceedings or something else? > > I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content. > I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too. > > Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts. > > http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book > > Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I > had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF... > > Jon > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to > > translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version > > in Vietnam. > > > > - Mario > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's > >> work and know her project in Beijing. > >> > >> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free. > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >>>> Hi! > >>>> > >>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <[email protected]>: > >>>> > >>>>> ? ? ?can i ?create one book about LGM meeting in June? ?i mean need > consider > >>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion. > >>>>> > >>>> If the book is licensed with something from freedomdefined.org, and > >>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to > >>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome > >>>> contribution :-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> There are ?interesting pictures and words in this book in my opinion, > i can > >>>>> write in English and Chinese after ?i interview designers who join > LGM > >>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers. > >>>>> > >>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what > >>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version control > >>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source > in > >>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> CREATE mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jon Phillips > >> http://rejon.org/ > >> http://fabricatorz.com/ > >> http://status.net/ > >> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > >> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > >> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > > > > -- > > _______________________________ > > > > Mario Behling > > [email protected] > > Vietnam +84 1286380690 > > International +49 30 88764502 > > Fax +4932121218971 > > XMPP: [email protected] > > http://mariobehling.de > > > > > > -- > Jon Phillips > http://rejon.org/ > http://fabricatorz.com/ > http://status.net/ > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:32:20 -0700 > From: Jon Phillips <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting > To: Mario Behling <[email protected]> > Cc: florica <[email protected]>, [email protected], > Christopher Adams <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I'm also adding Christopher Adams who published http://freesouls.cc > with Joi Ito last year. Would love to have his input on, but also > don't want to overload this process to the point of failure in too > many bodies. > > Jon > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Jon Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > > Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book. > > Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings > > > > Are they proceedings or something else? > > > > I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content. > > I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too. > > > > Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts. > > > > http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book > > > > Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I > > had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF... > > > > Jon > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to > >> translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version > >> in Vietnam. > >> > >> - Mario > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's > >>> work and know her project in Beijing. > >>> > >>> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free. > >>> > >>> Jon > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >>>>> Hi! > >>>>> > >>>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <[email protected]>: > >>>>> > >>>>>> ? ? ?can i ?create one book about LGM meeting in June? ?i mean need > consider > >>>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion. > >>>>>> > >>>>> If the book is licensed with something from freedomdefined.org, and > >>>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to > >>>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome > >>>>> contribution :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> There are ?interesting pictures and words in this book in my > opinion, i can > >>>>>> write in English and Chinese after ?i interview designers who join > LGM > >>>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers. > >>>>>> > >>>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what > >>>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version control > >>>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source > in > >>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus > >>>> > >>>> Craig > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> CREATE mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jon Phillips > >>> http://rejon.org/ > >>> http://fabricatorz.com/ > >>> http://status.net/ > >>> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > >>> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > >>> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > >> > >> -- > >> _______________________________ > >> > >> Mario Behling > >> [email protected] > >> Vietnam +84 1286380690 > >> International +49 30 88764502 > >> Fax +4932121218971 > >> XMPP: [email protected] > >> http://mariobehling.de > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jon Phillips > > http://rejon.org/ > > http://fabricatorz.com/ > > http://status.net/ > > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > > +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > > > > > > -- > Jon Phillips > http://rejon.org/ > http://fabricatorz.com/ > http://status.net/ > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:57:33 +0200 > From: Schrijver <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREATE] panel discussion (proposal): Web apps > To: Create ML <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Very good idea imho. > > There is a shift from the desktop towards these web apps, especially since > many of them are free?the irony :( > > Though in the world of web apps free software already has the unique > selling point that you can run many of the desktop programs headless on your > webserver?try doing that with a commercial content creation program! > > I?ve seen this done with fontforge a couple of times now; it powers the > conversion engine for cufon, is used in osp?s Nancy. I think wikipedia used > to use inkscape for converting svg, and I read of people using Open Office > to generate pdf?s serverside. > > But web apps with GUI?s are of course a bit of a tougher nut to crack? > > Is there such a thing as a HTML+CSS+JS based port of GTK? > > Eric Schrijver > > Op 17 apr 2010, om 10:35 heeft Kai-Uwe Behrmann het volgende geschreven: > > > Am 15.04.10, 19:22 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis: > >> I'd like to suggest a topic for a panel discussion session at LGM -- > Open > >> Source Graphics and the Web App. Jon Phillips touched on this topic in > his > >> talk last year in Montreal; I'm interested in asking some specific > questions > >> that relate to how the FOSS graphics suite can or should react to the > RIA > >> movement (which is mostly non-free). In addition to Picnik and the > other > >> well-known services, Google Docs just added a Drawing app, so it isn't > going > >> away. > > > > Would networked collaboration a la http://verse.blender.org/ or > > interfaces like CUPS' http://localhost:631/ fit your panel? > > > > kind regards > > Kai-Uwe Behrmann > > -- > > developing for colour management www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CREATE mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:57:55 +0200 > From: Schrijver <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREATE] publish book about LGM meeting > To: Create ML <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Awesome. > > Craig said: > >>>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source > in > >>>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus > > This is for the wiki, I suppose, but do you (or anyone) have any experience > using scribus in this way? I think it is quite interesting > > I am especially interested in scripting scribus so that it can ?compile? > the versioned source files to a layout automatically. > > You could call a scribus script on the post-commit hook of your versioning > system > > in many cases I guess Latex would be simpler for such a thing?but that has > its limitations? > > -- > Eric Schrijver > > Op 27 apr 2010, om 01:32 heeft Jon Phillips het volgende geschreven: > > > I'm also adding Christopher Adams who published http://freesouls.cc > > with Joi Ito last year. Would love to have his input on, but also > > don't want to overload this process to the point of failure in too > > many bodies. > > > > Jon > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Jon Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Totally. Maybe the thing todo is to start a wikipage about this book. > >> Something like Libre Graphics Meeting 2010 Proceedings > >> > >> Are they proceedings or something else? > >> > >> I like the idea of making it more of interviews and unique content. > >> I'd love to help with this and get my company to help too. > >> > >> Here, I made a wiki page to push this forward. Please add your thoughts. > >> > >> http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Libre_Graphics_Meeting_2010_Book > >> > >> Also, femke, what about flossmanuals? And some form of book sprint? I > >> had a beer with Adam last week who was stranded in SF... > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mario Behling <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> a book sounds great. We would like to join in. We have resources to > >>> translate to Vietnamese and I would be interested to publish a version > >>> in Vietnam. > >>> > >>> - Mario > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Yes, this would all be very cool! I can vouch for Wang Lingzheng's > >>>> work and know her project in Beijing. > >>>> > >>>> I would love to see this project happen. Yes, totally. Free free free. > >>>> > >>>> Jon > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Craig Bradney <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> On 4/23/10 1:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >>>>>> Hi! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2010/4/23 lingzheng wang <[email protected]>: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> can i create one book about LGM meeting in June? i mean need > consider > >>>>>>> copyright and other things etc. welcome for every one's suggestion. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> If the book is licensed with something from freedomdefined.org, and > >>>>>> uses the freely-licensed images that will inevitably be posted to > >>>>>> Flickr and elsewhere, I would say that this would be a very welcome > >>>>>> contribution :-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> There are interesting pictures and words in this book in my > opinion, i can > >>>>>>> write in English and Chinese after i interview designers who join > LGM > >>>>>>> meeting, then introduce opensource graphics to Chinese designers. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> I am happy to help you improve the English text in the book; what > >>>>>> software will you use to make it? If you use a public version > control > >>>>>> system, the book could be made collaboratively :-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> I think you know the correct answer to that one... produce the source > in > >>>>> a version system .. and convert the final text into Scribus > >>>>> > >>>>> Craig > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> CREATE mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jon Phillips > >>>> http://rejon.org/ > >>>> http://fabricatorz.com/ > >>>> http://status.net/ > >>>> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > >>>> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > >>>> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > >>> > >>> -- > >>> _______________________________ > >>> > >>> Mario Behling > >>> [email protected] > >>> Vietnam +84 1286380690 > >>> International +49 30 88764502 > >>> Fax +4932121218971 > >>> XMPP: [email protected] > >>> http://mariobehling.de > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jon Phillips > >> http://rejon.org/ > >> http://fabricatorz.com/ > >> http://status.net/ > >> http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > >> +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > >> +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jon Phillips > > http://rejon.org/ > > http://fabricatorz.com/ > > http://status.net/ > > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > > +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > > _______________________________________________ > > CREATE mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:13:33 +0200 > From: Schrijver <[email protected]> > Subject: [CREATE] off topic: decentralised social networking > To: Create ML <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Since I became social network junky I worry a lot about the privacy > implications of such centralised non-free software. So I figured social > networking should be distributed. And also figured that this would be a > ludicrous hassle to implement. > > But last week I came across the onesocialweb project. > Their code went online last week (under the apache license). They rigged > openfire XMPP (instant messaging) servers so that they have social > functionality. You set up your on social network on such a server, and these > servers can subsequently connect into what they call ?the federation?. > Distributed, connected! > > http://onesocialweb.org > Since the release the first few nodes have already gone online. > > I just wanted to point to this project because I think this and similar > software can only become something if we start playing with it. Otherwise it > just stays a lab project or thought experiment? > &social networking is here to stay, and in spite of common scepsis I > believe it can be quite stimulating for creatives. > > Cheers, > > Eric Schrijver > > ps > > found this via the comments on the proposals at > http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud > much more interesting links in the comments including > http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338 Eben Moglen; Freedom in the cloud > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:40:50 -0700 > From: Jon Phillips <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CREATE] off topic: decentralised social networking > To: Schrijver <[email protected]> > Cc: Create ML <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > <topPost /><offTopic /> > > I haven't seen this. Looks like its funded by vodafone (big company!). > You've seen what I'm working on, right: http://status.net and using > the http://ostatus.org protocol mashup and we built http://identi.ca > > Jon > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Schrijver <[email protected]> wrote: > > Since I became social network junky I worry a lot about the privacy > implications of such centralised non-free software. So I figured social > networking should be distributed. And also figured that this would be a > ludicrous hassle to implement. > > > > But last week I came across the onesocialweb project. > > Their code went online last week (under the apache license). They rigged > openfire XMPP (instant messaging) servers so that they have social > functionality. You set up your on social network on such a server, and these > servers can subsequently connect into what they call ?the federation?. > Distributed, connected! > > > > http://onesocialweb.org > > Since the release the first few nodes have already gone online. > > > > I just wanted to point to this project because I think this and similar > software can only become something if we start playing with it. Otherwise it > just stays a lab project or thought experiment? > > &social networking is here to stay, and in spite of common scepsis I > believe it can be quite stimulating for creatives. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Eric Schrijver > > > > ps > > > > found this via the comments on the proposals at > > http://wingolog.org/archives/2010/04/10/towards-a-gnu-autonomous-cloud > > much more interesting links in the comments including > > http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=1338 Eben Moglen; Freedom in the cloud > > _______________________________________________ > > CREATE mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > > > > > > -- > Jon Phillips > http://rejon.org/ > http://fabricatorz.com/ > http://status.net/ > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > +86.134.3957.2035 (china) > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CREATE mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > > > End of CREATE Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19 > ************************************** >
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