On 30 April 2010 15:53, Cyrille Berger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Probably I misunderstood, but, I though pyjamas allows you to write a >> > PyGTK app and 'cross compile' it to an AJAX webapp? >> >> i've read it the other way round: it allows you to create ajax apps by >> programming them in python and run them as gtk apps on your desktop if >> you want so... > > need pyjama-desktop for running it as gtk ... just > loading your application in a webkit view) http://pyjd.org/
Yes, looks like that's the case, although pyjs.org says at the top "pyjamas is a stand-alone python to javascript compiler", so when I said "PyGTK" I should have said "Python".... Also I asked Luke (lead developer of Pyjamas) about this: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton Subject: Re: Re: [CREATE] panel discussion (proposal): Web apps On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Dave Crossland <[email protected]> wrote: > > hi, > > Probably I misunderstood, but, I though pyjamas allows you to write > a PyGTK > app and 'cross... > > i've read it the other way round: it allows you to create ajax apps by > programming them in python and run them as gtk apps on your desktop if you > want so... not quite either - but almost. you're both correct. a 2007 GSoC project created an _independent_ and _alternative_ port of pygtk, called pygtkweb by _reimplementing_ gobject, gdk and gtk in terms of DOM objects, to be compiled from python to javascript, to run in web browsers. the only one of the three pyjamas projects (and yes there are three separate pyjamas projects) that pygtkweb uses is the pyjs compiler. so that's pygtkweb. then there's pyjamas itself, containing three projects: pyjs compiler, DOM library (does what it sounds like) and UI library. there are two versions of the DOM library. the first is specifically suited to compiling to javascript, for running in web browsers. there are variations (for all 5 major web browser platforms, ie, mozilla, netscape, safari and opera) but they all do exactly the same thing. the _second_ version of the DOM library runs under web _engines_, of which there are four. two are "mature" - MSHTML and xulrunner; two are "experimental" - pywebkitgtk andpy webkitqt4. this gives you niiiine platforms to run the same python application - unmodified and unchanged- either as a desktop application _or_ a web application. so, you can see that you have a whopping amount of choice, but basically you just don't care _what_ platform the application runs under: it's python, it's going to work on all those platforms, and that's the end of it. of course, the spanner in the works is the webkit developers, one of whom has _deliberately_ gone out of his way to ensure that webkit-glib/gobject does _not_ get into the mainline webkit tree, but that's another story. l. _______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
