On 15/01/14 01:47, Dave Crossland wrote:
RTA this time
>
> On 14 Jan 2014 16:09, "Tobias Ellinghaus" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2014, 22:40:51 schrieb Andrew Chadwick:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Codes of conduct are mostly just "don't be obnoxious; listen, respect,
> > > learn" written out in long form with some specifics about what's not
> > > to be tolerated. Granted, they say what shouldn't need to be said and
> > > are always written in the hope they don't have to be invoked; but they
> > > also publicly state that the organizers care about what happens to
> > > people at the conference and how welcome they feel.
> >
> > I don't know about you, but when I approach a group of people that have
given
> > themselves rules like that my first thought would be "OMFG, do I really
want to
> > get in touch with them? Terrible things must have happened there".
That attitude is a fine example of white male privilege.
I'm a white male, and I want to welcome people who are not like me. If they
want a coc, we should give them one. If PSF wants one to give us money to find
their travel to join us, all the better.
I think a coc also helps mitigate the tyranny of structurelessness.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness
You saved the day Dave -- thank you for bringing up that reference
The short of it: I am for adopting the Python Code of conduct as-is (which is
being developed and publicly discussed here by the way
https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct ) and pick at the details of
it's phrasing later.
It would be great if the Python foundation would decide to support LGM again
and I am not afraid a Code of conduct will scare away tight pants, discussions
around it, or anyone for that matter.
A publicly available statement about "how the organizers care about what happens to
people at the conference and how welcome they feel" might bring some perspective to
the tyranny of cluelessness that shows from this thread.
F
_______________________________________________
CREATE mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
