Hi,

Just to let you guys know of the following: After getting c-reduce git HEAD, 
and running it on the same example I see pass_lines 0 reducing one byte at a 
time starting from ~751000 bytes. Since this would take the rest of my life to 
reduce I decided to remove pass_lines 0 from creduce.in and make install as per 
John's suggestion. Now I see:

pmatos@poseidon:~/tmp/builds/creduce-build/creduce$ ./creduce 
./min.sh  PsdInfo_6cpe.i 
===< 10766 >===
running 4 interestingness test(s) in parallel
===< pass_blank :: 0 >===
===< pass_clang_binsrch :: replace-function-def-with-decl >===
===< pass_clang_binsrch :: remove-unused-function >===
(0.0 %, 751215 bytes)
(0.1 %, 750836 bytes)
===< pass_lines :: 1 >===
(-1.7 %, 764127 bytes)
===< pass_lines :: 1 >===
(-3.5 %, 777418 bytes)
===< pass_lines :: 1 >===
(-5.2 %, 790709 bytes)
===< pass_lines :: 2 >===
(-7.0 %, 804073 bytes)
===< pass_lines :: 2 >===
(-8.8 %, 817437 bytes) 
===< pass_lines :: 2 >===
(-10.6 %, 830801 bytes)

Will try to remove all pass lines and see what happens.

Paulo Matos


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:creduce-dev-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of John Regehr
> Sent: 02 October 2013 15:09
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [creduce-dev] Increase of size during reduction process
> 
> Hi Paulo,
> 
> This is odd behavior, I haven't seen it happen where a temporary size
> increase keeps going.
> 
> You can easily disable individual passes that aren't being helpful: just
> modify creduce.in and then "make install" again.
> 
> C-Reduce is deterministic so it doesn't take any kind of seed.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On 10/02/2013 08:02 AM, Paulo Matos wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Eitan Adler [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: 02 October 2013 14:55
> >> To: Paulo Matos
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [creduce-dev] Increase of size during reduction process
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Paulo Matos <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>
> >>> Shouldn't size increase be dismissed?
> >>
> >> It is possible to get into local minimums which are not global minimums.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > This testcase I am trying is driving me nuts.
> > It's currently at
> > (-3.3 %, 473260 bytes)
> >
> > Each time a pass_blank starts it increases the size more than it decreases
> during its process, therefore even though the testcase started with
> > ===< pass_blank :: 0 >===
> > (0.0 %, 458340 bytes)
> > it is now way larger.
> >
> > Is there a way to set a seed to creduce, so that I can try to avoid those
> local minimums?
> > Maybe if I can set a seed, I can set up multiple parallel creduce and grab
> the one that generates the smallest example.
> >
> > Paulo Matos
> >


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