Hmm, "Birth Giving" sounds very peculiar in English, "Giving Birth" is a much more natural-sounding expression.
Here's version 2 of the "gerundified" list, with Nick's helpful corrections to my first hastily-put-together-before-going-on-vacation attempt, plus a counter-proposal: CRM EVENTS - "GERUNDIFIED" LIST version 2 E7 - - - - Activity (Acting) E8 - - - - - Acquisition (Acquiring) E9 - - - - - Move (Moving) E10 - - - - - Transfer of Custody (Transferring Custody) E11 - - - - - Modification (Modifying) E12 - - - - - - Production (Producing) E13 - - - - - Attribute Assignment (Attribute Assigning) E14 - - - - - - Condition Assessment (Condition Assessing) E15 - - - - - - Identifier Assignment (Identifier Assigning) E16 - - - - - - Measurement (Measuring) E17 - - - - - - Type Assignment (Type Assigning) E65 - - - - - Conceptual Creation (Conceptually Creating) E66 - - - - - Formation (Forming) E63 - - - - Beginning of Existence (Beginning of Existence) E67 - - - - - Birth (Giving Birth) E12 - - - - - Production (Producing) E65 - - - - - Conceptual Creation (Conceptually Creating) E66 - - - - - Formation (Forming) E64 - - - - End of Existence (Ending of Existence) E6 - - - - - Destruction (Destroying) E68 - - - - - Dissolution (Dissolving) E69 - - - - - Death (Dying) However, I *am* a little concerned about how the gerundified events will fit together with their corresponding properties; for example: [E7 Acting] <P18 motivated the creation of> [E28 Conceptual Object] [E12 Producing] <P108 has produced> [E24 Physical Man-Made Stuff] [E67 Giving Birth] <P98 brought into life> [E21 Person] Sounds much less coherent and understandable than: [E7 Activity] <P18 motivated the creation of> [E28 Conceptual Object] [E12 Production] <P108 has produced> [E24 Physical Man-Made Stuff] [E67 Birth] <P98 brought into life> [E21 Person] Perhaps another way to deal with the potential verb/noun confusion in the Event hierarchy would be to explicitly state that the entities are events: CRM EVENTS - "EVENT EXPLICIT" LIST version 1 E7 - - - - Activity (Action Event) E8 - - - - - Acquisition (Acquisition Event) E9 - - - - - Move (Movement Event) E10 - - - - - Transfer of Custody (Transfer of Custody Event) E11 - - - - - Modification (Modification Event) E12 - - - - - - Production (Production Event) E13 - - - - - Attribute Assignment (Attribute Assignment Event) E14 - - - - - - Condition Assessment (Condition Assessment Event) E15 - - - - - - Identifier Assignment (Identifier Assigment Event) E16 - - - - - - Measurement (Measurement Event) E17 - - - - - - Type Assignment (Type Assignment Event) E65 - - - - - Conceptual Creation (Conceptual Creation Event) E66 - - - - - Formation (Formation Event) E63 - - - - Beginning of Existence (Beginning of Existence Event) E67 - - - - - Birth (Birth Event) E12 - - - - - Production (Production Event) E65 - - - - - Conceptual Creation (Conceptual Creation Event) E66 - - - - - Formation (Formation Event) E64 - - - - End of Existence (End of Existence Event) E6 - - - - - Destruction (Destruction Event) E68 - - - - - Dissolution (Dissolution Event) E69 - - - - - Death (Death Event) This would then give us: [E7 Action Event] <P18 motivated the creation of> [E28 Conceptual Object] [E12 Production Event] <P108 has produced> [E24 Physical Man-Made Stuff] [E67 Birth Event] <P98 brought into life> [E21 Person] This seems more intuitive than the gerund forms to me... Comments? Cheers, T. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Gill <> [email protected] Research Libraries Group <> http://www.rlg.org/ 1200 Villa Street, Mountain View, CA 94041 USA Voice: +1 (650) 691-2304 <> Fax: +1 (650) 964-1461 [email protected] Sent by: [email protected] 27/11/2001 08:55 PM To: [email protected] cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crm-sig] Gerundifying events What about "birth giving" ? In conjunction with the property it may read better: Nick - was born in - birth giving - by mother ....?? Martin > > A couple of typos: "Beginning if Existence" should be "Beginning of > Existence". (Though the metaphysical implications of the former are > more interesting...;-) "Aqcuiring" should be "Acquiring". Interesting > that you didn't deal with birth (hesitating about the awkwardness of > "birthing" perhaps?). It could be gerindificated as "giving Birth" or > as "Being Born", depending on who the subject of the action is seen as. > I would prefer "Giving Birth" as none of the other activities use > passive forms. As I recall, the "potential for confusion" was related > to the fact that some verbs are also nouns, so "E12 Production" might > sound like a thing, as in "an RLG-Speilberg production". Using gerunds > avoids this confusion. Expressing everything in gerund form is more > consistent too. Cheers > Nick > Tony Gill <[email protected]> wrote: Folks, > > In the Actions, I was assigned: "TG to propose new names for activities > in the event hierarchy using gerunds when there is potential for > confusion." > > Well, I can't remember what the "potential for confusion" was now, so > I've "gerundified" them all: > > E7 - - - - Activity (Acting) > E8 - - - - - Acquisition (Aqcuiring) > E9 - - - - - Move (Moving) > E10 - - - - - Transfer of Custody (Transferring Custody) > E11 - - - - - Modification (Modifying) > E12 - - - - - - Production (Producing) > E13 - - - - - Attribute Assignment (Attribute Assigning) > E14 - - - - - - Condition Assessment (Condition Assessing) > E15 - - - - - - Identifier Assignment (Identifier Assigning) > E16 - - - - - - Measurement (Measuring) > E17 - - - - - - Type Assignment (Type Assigning) > E65 - - - - - Conceptual Creation (Conceptually Creating) > E66 - - - - - Formation (Forming) > E63 - - - - Beginning of Existence (Beginning if Existence) > E67 - - - - - Birth > E12 - - - - - Production (Producing) > E65 - - - - - Conceptual Creation (Conceptually Creating) > E66 - - - - - Formation (Forming) > E64 - - - - End of Existence (Ending of Existence) > E6 - - - - - Destruction (Destroying) > E68 - - - - - Dissolution (Dissolving) > E69 - - - - - Death (Dying) > > Cheers, > > T. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tony Gill <> [email protected] > Research Libraries Group <> http://www.rlg.org/ > 1200 Villa Street, Mountain View, CA 94041 USA > Voice: +1 (650) 691-2304 <> Fax: +1 (650) 964-1461 > > > Nicholas Crofts > DAEL / DSI > rue David-Dufour 5 > Case postale 22 > CH - 1211 Genθve 8 > tιl +41 22 327 5271 > fax +41 22 328 4382 > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalised at My Yahoo!.
