Dear Edmund,
Lee, Edmund wrote:
Hello all,
This sounds sensible Martin, and consistent with my understanding of slavery
in the ancient world at least (one of the modules in my undergraduate
course).
Do the same considerations apply to other groups of people involuntarily
brought together under some legal definition? I am thinking, for example
about 'prisoners of war'?
I am not so sure about that. By sure the CRM does not claim to cover sociology.
In the above, I thought more of slaves pressed into ship, brought to auction
etc.
Prisoners of war may form, even unwillingly, a Group, once they are encamped and
allowed social contact.
Martin
Ed
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From: martin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 10:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crm-sig] Slaves as Physical Objects?
Dear All,
In Copenhagen we were puzzled by the question, if sales of slaves
are covered by the CIDOC CRM, and if not, if they should.
The majority agreed, that this is not an issue worthwhile
extending the
CRM. Nevertheless, it is actually covered by the CRM, and has some
interesting aspects:
1. Slaves, being Persons, are also Physical Objects
(consistent with SHIC, were they are under trading goods, as
well as with the Roman laws,
if I am not mistaken). Hence, Acquisition refers to them.
2. Groups of Slaves, as brought together by slave traders,
are not groups in the sense of the CRM, as they did not come
together for collective action. In this sense, they are an
aggregate as others,
which is covered by Physical Object (see discussion about
collections, ISSUE 1). It would be too far going, to regard
them a curated Collection...Hence, even aggregates of slaves
are covered by
Acquisition.
3. If, as in good movies, but far too seldom in reality,
slaves have the chance to congregate and lynch their
suppressors, they form a Group in the sense of the CRM, if
lucky with the same members as
under point 2, but with distinct identity from the aggregate
they belonged to before or
still belong in the eyes of those regarding themselves as
their owners. In particular Spartacus' band must be seen as a Group.
Comments?
martin
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Principle Researcher | Fax:+30(810)391609 |
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Institute of Computer Science |
Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) |
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